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Old 11-13-2020, 12:57 AM   #351 (permalink)
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IIRC, the Korean 'police action'.

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Old 11-13-2020, 01:05 AM   #352 (permalink)
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IIRC, the Korean 'police action'.
It always sounded quite weird that Ford delayed the release of the Y-Block engine due to the Korean War.
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Old 11-13-2020, 01:30 AM   #353 (permalink)
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Do you know about the french military flathead V8s? French Flathead

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Simca Used Ford Flathead V-8s Until 1961 and We Found One!
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/simc...il-1961-found/
The V8-60 flathead is quickly differentiated from its larger siblings via its 17 head studs. The original 221-cube flathead used 21 studs (1932-1938). ... By 1951 the French economy had improved ...

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/simc...il-1961-found/
This 1958 Simca Vedette Trianon packs an American V-8 surprise under its bent hood. A similar model called the Aronde was offered but with a 78ci, 48hp OHV four-cylinder.
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Do you know about the french military flathead V8s?
Of course. The so-called SUMB (Simca-Unic-Marmon-Bouquet) engine.


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This 1958 Simca Vedette Trianon packs an American V-8 surprise under its bent hood.
The same model became the Simca Chambord in Brazil, and lately evolved into the Chrysler Esplanada which already incorporated ArDun-like cylinder heads on the old faithful Aquillon which then became the Emi-Sul engine.
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Old 11-21-2020, 06:14 AM   #355 (permalink)
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All right. I am about to talk crazy, but stick with me! 2x8s are $8.67. I argue that I can make my own Tstud for... $8.67.

Cut out the black part and use a router to reduce the crossmember to 2x2 (or 1.5x1.5). There would still be thermal bridging, but 2.25 square inches per linear foot.

I call it the Shtud!

Why not Hstud?

Histud?
Hustud?
Aychestud?

How would you pronounce that?

[There is a good chance I would only make sch... at least at first]

Okay, how do I make [and pronounce] a Xtud?

I present to you the Xtud!

Their dowels seem to be at a 45 angle, except they are at an angle in two dimensions. They are thinking with triangles and stuff!

Having the crossmembers at an angle makes that part 40% longer, reducing the thermal bridging. If I just made an X it would be a more complicated H with a 2" thermal bridge.

Imagine the crossmembers are 1/2" thick, separated by half an inch. Half an inch of insulation wouldn't do much, but it would do more than an H!

How the heck would I make one?!

I could use a router to make the X, put a wider bit on a 1/2" spacer to create a channel in the middle, and then chisel it out?

I would want to make a 2' section for a proof of concept and maybe patent it.

Not everyone has a patent!

If I made a sandwich of 5/8" and 3/8" plywood it would be negligibly thicker than 1.5". That would be vastly easier than carving a board, but it would not be as impressive.

With much enthusiasm I present to the world the kstud. Yay:

All right. Let's say that I use something like that instead of Honey-do Carpenter's metal studs.


It was 115.0F (46C) in Phoenix on July 16th, 2019. The low was 89.1 F (32C)
Matt Ringleader sang praises to T studs here. There is a note that they cost as much as a premium stud.

What is a premium stud?

Someone commented that they cost five times as much as standard lumber for at most R3.

A double wall makes far more sense to me!

Someone claimed that metal studs made more sense.

No, they don't.
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A premium stud has a bit more processing to keep it potentially straighter by less knots, bit more drying and a pass through a better planer. Not worth the price when you can sort your own for the same effect in the piles at the box stores.
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It sounds like the Tstuds are clamped down while they dry so they don't warp. Sure, plenty of boards warp at the box store, but how many of you have had them warp after you bought them?

I am unimpressed with the kiln-drying process, but what is the success rate?

90%?

99%?

I am sure that it depends on the dimensions.

I am positive that I already watched this, but I started playing it on Mom's television yesterday. I expected her to come home and yell at me to change it to Hallmark, but she seemed to enjoy criticizing the Canadian.

"How many sheds have you built?"
"None! I am not a carpenter!"
"He has been doing this successfully for decades. Look at his house! That is beautiful!"
[Grumbles]

He said that he ran to Home Depot and looked at their commercial sheds. He built this with 16" on-center studs [the roof is 12"], but theirs were 24", and they used many 2x3s.

He said that all of his materials, including the concrete foundation, cost as much as the commercial one, but it would last far longer:
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When Chicago burnt down due to asteroidal impact, it was rebuilt with the newest innovations, 2x4s and wire nails. They used balloon framing where the studs were two stories tall and the 2nd floor hung from them.

In a single story structure, 2x3s and/or 24" spacing are adequate.

I've built and filled a 6x8ft dirt-floored lean-to shed in the last 60 days.
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He said that he ran to Home Depot and looked at their commercial sheds. He built this with 16" on-center studs [the roof is 12"], but theirs were 24", and they used many 2x3s.
That depends on how much you want to pay for a shed. Home Deport will sell you a shed framed with 2x4s 16" on center.

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