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Old 02-27-2020, 09:17 AM   #11 (permalink)
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What garages would be better and cheaper?

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One of these would probably be a better option. Better quality, not very expensive and easy to build. They have shed and home kits.

https://www.ezlogstructures.com/products/


Or build a 2 car garage with a apartment above. That way you could have a place to live, storage for personal things and a place to keep or work on a car.

Then, if and when you build a house later on the lot, you can rent the apartment to offset the mortgage. Or just have some nice added income $$$.

However, as rmay635703 has already posted, some municipalities donít allow it.


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This is their only 2-car garage. It is $20,769 plus shipping. This is one of their larger homes, 1,767 square feet and two stories, but without a staircase. That is extra. It comes with "a retractable pull down loft ladder." Right now it is on sale for $42,999. They say that it is usually $65,725.

They do not use drywall, they have wood boards inside.

They also offer an extra insulation kit for 10% more. The walls are R12, the kit adds R13, but they say that makes R27.

Right.

Math.

I did not see any homes with an attached garage.
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Do you need that much sq. footage?


Many other companies offer garage apartment kits or plans.

Examples.

Plans

https://www.thehousedesigners.com/garage-plans/


Kit

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Barn-Pro...iABEgKmWfD_BwE


Amish - built on your lot. (probably no Amish around your local though)

https://www.ebay.com/i/132116343311?...algv%3DDefault


Plans

https://www.ebay.com/i/193012453795?...iABEgKEh_D_BwE


Google search

https://www.google.com/search?q=2+ca...w=1024&bih=666



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IIRC square footage excludes cabinets and built-in beds, etc.
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Is anything really illegal if you live where there aren't building restrictions?
The question is tautalogical. What is the purpose of this thread?

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Do I need as much square footage as what? The 512-square-foot shed? Or the 1,767 square-foot home?

The first plan is weird. One bedroom and one bath, but a three-car garage?

I wonder what "Five sets" and "Eight sets" mean. The plans are several hundred dollars.

Another one is one-bedroom, one-bath, and five garages!

The Home Depot kit looks cool, but it is just a garage and a loft. How much would it cost to have a kitchen, bathroom, and bedroom designed? Would my Veteran's discount apply to the $34,499 cost?

I like the Amish home over the two-car garage, but free shipping only applies within 100 miles of their ZIP code. They charge extra within another 200 miles, but then "WE DO NOT DELIVER OUTSIDE OF A 300 MILE RADIUS FROM 19310."

The Easy Log Structures that you shared earlier have a Chicago 6, a zero bedroom, but has a loft. Apparently lofts do not count, it says 259 square feet, plus a lofted area of 127 square feet. It is 13'9" x 18'10", which sure seems too big for Mom's backyard, but if I just had an office I could get more work done, although an office and storage would be great.

I chose that one specifically because it was on sale and had free shipping. They have an Omaha, which is $12,056 for 205 square feet. They say they will make modifications for free as long as they do not require additional material. It is 16'9" x 13'5". If it were 16'4" x 13'5" [5" shorter" it would be an even 200 square feet, and not require a permit, but I am confident that offices are more useful with electricity.

I like that one because most of the roof is one angle. If I had it face the other shed and apple trees instead of the house, most of the roof would face the sun.

It would be silly to have a one-car garage in the backyard. I once parked my Civic back there, but I folded in my mirrors first. However, Mom's shed has two big doors, so it would work for moving large items in and out. Garage A is 10'6" x 18.7' for $7,578.

Their London 2 has double doors and is $4,082 for 138 square feet.

These may be overpriced compared to building from scratch, but this should be much more difficult to mess up.

Those plans are interesting, a two-car garage with a bathroom and patio on the first floor, and then "bonus space" above the size of the garage and patio.

I wish that there were more specifics.

Interesting stuff. The log cabins are interesting. They are not what I would expect from that term, but they look vastly easier to assemble than the alternatives. Don't like Lincoln Log interior walls? Just nail drywall to it!
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Municipalities require multiple sets of plans so they can handout a copy to every department and inspector. They usually require a digital copy (more $$$) also to keep on file.


Garage apartments need not be limited to the upper floor.

You could after inspection, choose to use the lower floor not as a garage but as actual living space.

Just keep the doors shut...



As it has been said many times before.

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Menards about 5 years ago used to list a $9999
4.5 car garage with a side entry door that looked “house like” it was tall with the roof having dormers and windows.

I planned (based on its height and dimensions) to place it on a floating slab with a 3 foot cement block wall, this elevation in height would allow me to wall off one side, dormer one garage door and end up with a 2 story.

Despite everything being laid out in plans and passing code the town would refuse to look at it claiming no matter what anything starting as a garage could never be allowed to start.

This despite the concept being larger than most local homes and being designed per code.

Slab and all would have been under $20k, the lot I was looking at was only $500


Sadly Menards lists a lot of random local 3rd party products, don’t even remember who was offering that prefab.
I can’t imagine inflation making a simple stick built square costing much more today.
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Did you present garage plans or new ones for a house, modified from the old ones?
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I watched a number of this guy's other videos and decided to watch some more about making your own shed. This guy's four-hour behemoth was a top result:
He does not give a materials list, parts estimate, and I am unsure that he said how long it took.

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