Car prices are still insane.

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

So my recommendation is to network. If you've got a good reputation among reputable friends and family, then work finds you. The best in an industry don't advertise, they turn away work.

I'm not denying that racists don't want to hire certain groups of people, just that you wouldn't want to work for them anyway, and there's high demand for qualified people who can check a 'victimhood' box.

When I was discriminated against in my application for an apartment due to being a convicted felon, I didn't cry about it, I went somewhere that wanted my money.

Good recomendation, althought it's not going to work in every situation.

When I tried to work in the big city of Denver I spent day after day looking for work. I didn't have any friends or family there even though all my family lives in Colorado. But I couldn't seem to land a job anywhere. I spent over 6 months filling out applications and printing resumes on nearly a daily basis while renting someone's basement for a price that felt sky high. With no friends and no family, me accepting my first night jobs, and not even a bed to sleep in it was brutal.

I did find some work that kept me going financially, but nothing worth sticking around for. One job paid me half of what was minimum wage at the time with no tips. Another would work me nearly 80 hours one week and then let me off the whole next week and give me a paycheck without overtime, all minimum wage, because I had worked an average of 40 hours per week.

I probably could have complained to the right people and gotten paid my fair worth of work. But when you're young you don't feel like taking your boss you just got a month ago to court to get paid.

After those six months I did go to where I felt people wanted me to work for them, back to the mountains.

[freebeard]

You're making my point about seizing opportunity rather than squandering it.

Which is what I said in Permalink #42.

I'd be like all the unknown siblings of folks like Bezos, Gates, Soros, Buffet, Musk... even playing fields are lumpy, it seems.

Elon Musk blames elite LA school for brainwashing 'communist' trans daughter into hating him for being rich
New York Post|18 hours ago
She went beyond socialism to being a full communist and thinking that anyone rich is evil," said Musk, whose net worth is estimated to be $257.5 billion.
Meet Elon Musk's transgender daughter Vivian Jenna Wilson - who he describes as a 'communist who thinks anyone rich is evil'

MSN|4 hours ago
For Elon Musk, his relationship with his transgender daughter has been a tense one in recent years. And his latest outburst, where he called Vivian Jenna Wilson, 19, a 'communist' who thinks 'anyone rich is evil', has suggested that their relationship has ...

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Lumpy, but the educational system acts as a mangle [noun]. Reduces everyone to the lowest level.

[Piotrsko]

If you ever face to face with musk, his daughter is correct, IMHO

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

If you ever face to face with musk, his daughter is correct, IMHO

You've got personal relations with Musk?

He's in my top 5 famous people I'd want to have drinks with. I'll go ahead and throw out George Hotz, Bill Gates, Peter Thiel, and Jordan Peterson to round out the list.

I understand it's difficult to be unremarkable in the shadow of great accomplishment, and with 10 children, and several enormous companies, I'm sure the kids were neglected the father figure they should have had.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by JSH

study after study shows that identical resumes with traditionally male and white names get more call-backs than resumes with female or traditionally minority names

I guess some Japanese name such as Hideo qualifies as a traditionally minority name. Despite it having been much usual for Japanese-Brazilian parents to give both a Western and a traditional Japanese name to their kids, it's worth noticing the Japanese diaspora overcame a lot of discrimination which was even worse than what black slaves endured, and in a much more recent timeframe. So that minority issue may have different perspectives to evaluate. Not to mention the free black immigrants who came in recent years to Brazil from Haiti and Senegal, who tend to adjust quite easy to life in Brazil and even get along with people of other races better than some mulattoes (full-blooded blacks here are few) who were already born in Brazil.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Lumpy, but the educational system acts as a mangle [noun]. Reduces everyone to the lowest level.

'Equity' is a regression to the mean mechanism. Easier to assault the proficient than to become proficient. Cain vs Able reaction to competence.

Interestingly, even nature has a regression to the mean mechanism. High IQ parents tend to produce higher than average IQ kids, but not quite as smart as them. Dullards tend to produce lower than average IQ kids, but not quite as dumb as them.

[freebeard]

...a regression to the mean mechanism

The mean is preferable to the lower bound. [N]ature resists the educational system.

I was going to put this in the Katoonist thread, but does it fit here?


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[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Easier to assault the proficient than to become proficient.

I saw that happening a lot of times...

[JSH]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

What's laughable is I said genetalia and skin hue, and you started talking about names.

Employers cannot ask a person's race, color, or national origin in the interview process. That doesn't mean they can't infer these things from other parts of the resume.

The study I'm referring to sent out resumes to job postings but varied the name to test for bias in the hiring process. What the study found was that resumes with the names like Greg, Todd, Brad, and Neil got 50% more call backs than the same resume with names like Jamal, Tyrone, Darnell, and Rasheed.

That is VERY clear evidence of racial bias in the hiring process and it isn't the white guys that are being discriminated against.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by JSH

The study I'm referring to sent out resumes to job postings but varied the name to test for bias in the hiring process. What the study found was that resumes with the names like Greg, Todd, Brad, and Neil got 50% more call backs than the same resume with names like Jamal, Tyrone, Darnell, and Rasheed.

That is VERY clear evidence of racial bias in the hiring process and it isn't the white guys that are being discriminated against.

What's racist is assuming Greg, Todd, Brad, and Neil are white.

To reiterate my prior position, we have the natural right to discriminate for any reason at all, without even being compelled to disclose the reason, with exception to government related functions. We naturally discriminate in absolutely every decision no matter what it is, and no law is going to change that. I've been denied jobs and housing because of a label that has been assigned to me, and I have never complained at all. Refusing excellence is your choice.