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Old 11-24-2018, 01:41 PM   #3871 (permalink)
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Old 11-24-2018, 01:43 PM   #3872 (permalink)
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IPCC says highest ever CO2 yet observed.
(Even though CO2 levels were many times higher in the past and nothing happened)
But the accompanying heat seems to be lacking.
Last night, on the PBS News Hour,they mentioned, 'Highest in the last 3-5-million years.
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Old 11-24-2018, 01:50 PM   #3873 (permalink)
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But the believers say the sun doesn't effect climate.


I'm well aware of the extended solar minimum and they are too. That's why they are freaking out.
Once and for all it is about be proven that man is not the driving force behind and they know it.
They just can't accept it.
Of the 7 stages of loss they seem to be stuck in mostly denial and some in anger.
I read the paper last night,from the Hadley Center research.They said that you attribute solar illuminance for a portion of this century's warming,then after that,it was all driven by anthropogenic carbon.
And please don't include me in your blanket statement about how 'believers' are reacting.
I'd be the exception to the rule.
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While public ignorance has driven the climate change challenge,it appears that an enlightened public is perceived as the greater evil.
Otherwise every public school in the US,up through state universities would require mandatory climate-related curriculum.
I don't have any idea where the necessary education is going to come from.
Seriously? Public schools are so far left all ideas have fallen off that end of the spectrum and not replaced with anything reasonable. Faculty that are merely slightly to the left live in silence and fear hoping they aren't discovered to have a relatively moderate view, and then have their social and professional lives ruined by the insatiable hoard of SJWs looking for victimizers to blame all the woes of victimized people.

Global warming is nearly the only type of science taught, with sciences like biology a taboo subject that must either be ignored, or dismissed as bigoted.

The problem never was one of education, but of the human condition. Despite the fact that our youth are brainwashed lefties, they still want their things. Hero status by Tweeting is much easier to achieve than the old way our heroes were made; with personal sacrifice.
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Old 11-24-2018, 03:52 PM   #3875 (permalink)
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So we have at least one example where the climatology community offered open access,to not only the computer model,but also the raw data that would be incorporated in the modelling.
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Supose we find cold fusion, or hydrogen fusion by low cost, and fine energy storage.

There will stil be a problem for steel mils activities.

How electricity could melt steel ???

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It's not the melting it. It's smelting it.
Where you dig what amounts to rust out of the ground, turn the rust into iron and add a little bit of carbon that stays with the iron while removing impurities.

Remelting steel and iron to recycle it using an electric arc furnace is common.
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Seriously? Public schools are so far left all ideas have fallen off that end of the spectrum and not replaced with anything reasonable. Faculty that are merely slightly to the left live in silence and fear hoping they aren't discovered to have a relatively moderate view, and then have their social and professional lives ruined by the insatiable hoard of SJWs looking for victimizers to blame all the woes of victimized people.

Global warming is nearly the only type of science taught, with sciences like biology a taboo subject that must either be ignored, or dismissed as bigoted.

The problem never was one of education, but of the human condition. Despite the fact that our youth are brainwashed lefties, they still want their things. Hero status by Tweeting is much easier to achieve than the old way our heroes were made; with personal sacrifice.
Perhaps in Oregon.
None of the kids here,that go to public school are studying it.It's like it never existed.
The scientists that I read say it's all a matter of education, and cultivating critical thinking,which is illegal in Texas.
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Supose we find cold fusion, or hydrogen fusion by low cost, and fine energy storage.

There will stil be a problem for steel mils activities.

How electricity could melt steel ???
All steel is produced by electric induction heating.What's the problem?

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