The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

And may the side with the most money win.

Your money loves you.

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by sendler

But of course if you do not make a living wage, you will not be happy by any measure.

You'd be surprised. People don't live by logic.
But in general, if you cannot obtain your basic needs that will lead to hardship and frustration. If the community provides much of those needs (healthcare, education, social security etc) your monetary needs drop significantly.

The ability to effectively deal with the problems you perceive is strongly related to happiness, possession (in itself, other than providing a way to effectively deal with problems) not so much.

[sendler]

Originally Posted by RedDevil

If the community provides much of those needs (healthcare, education, social security etc) your monetary needs drop significantly.

USA does not provide healthcare. I am in a good group with my employer contributing and pay I $6,000 per year. $10,000 when I was paying for my two children. Some people pay more.
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I pay $8,000 in income tax to the USA and $2,000 to NY state. Property and school tax on a very cheap, 100 year old house is $6,000. Sales tax is 8% on all purchases except essential food items. Gas tax is $0.50/ gallon.
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I must wait to receive social security payments until age 68 to get a better amount. And it is really just giving back what I have paid in over my career. If it is still solvent 10 years from now.
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k-12 education is free and generally accessible to all and the schools in NY are excellent. Students may study bio/ chem/ physics/ algebra/ geometry/ trig/ calculus, if they choose. But still very little computer programming or cad is available. Secondary education is a highly privatized big busniness with costs of attendance running at about $60,000/ year. Student loans are the biggest rip off charging 6%.

[RedDevil]

The way I see it everyone should have complete freedom about how to spend their money on their wants, but have access to bare needs no matter what. Like basic education, healthcare, anything you need to stay alive and functional.

Some people make bad choices when it comes down to money, which is bad enough when it only matters themselves - but for those who are dependent on them, like children, the elderly of impaired it is quite another matter.
Having the community provide basic needs prevents a lot of trouble.

But the point I wanted to stress is that it isn't about money, but the choices one makes.
Or as one comedian over here stated: "Money alone does not make you happy. That's why I own a big yacht..."

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

None of that makes up for having an insignificant sample size.

Your response is incoherent.I don't know what to make of it.Help me out here.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

If you want real science then yes.
Actually it would need to be more like 100 to 150 years more.
The only climate data that even approachs that sample size is either manipulated to show the desired outcome or thrown out because it doesn't fit the narrative or can't be manipulated.
You have to admit that looks pretty suspicious.

What on Earth are you talking about? And please be specific.With references.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

So read the excuses they use to justify making the evidence fit the predetermined conclusion?
Thet is the text book example of a waste of time.

You may be nominated for the for The National Association for Predetermined Conclusions poster child.
Have you listened to yourself?

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Peer review like this:
https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/14/s...lobal-warming/

Scientists behind a headline-grabbing climate study admitted they “really muffed” their paper.
Their study claimed to find 60 percent more warming in the oceans, but that was based on math errors.
The errors were initially spotted by scientist Nic Lewis, who called them “serious (but surely inadvertent) errors.”

I guess their peer review is if it sounds good we will go along with it.

What's the problem Mr. Perfection?

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

The margin of error is nothing is going to happen to we're all going to die.

May the side with the most money win.

Yes,we all die.Keep going.There may come a time when I can agree with something else you say.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

5 to 10 years ago no one would touch over the water wind power in the US.
Now they are acting like it's the hottest thing since the sun.

The global warming belivers are just freaking out because their predictions are failing faster than Alexandria Ocasio- Cortez in a math class.

Stop including me in your broad stroke of the brush comments.You don't speak for me!