The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[RedDevil]

Looking into that power station led me to a wikipedia-style page hosted by the Center for Media and Democracy which acts as a

watchdog that leads in-depth, award-winning investigations into the corruption that undermines our democracy, environment, and economic prosperity.

Wowie.

The Koch brothers and their network of billionaires are operating with a reach and resources that exceed those of political parties and they are using that power to erode the integrity of our elections and sap taxpayer dollars away from investments in public infrastructure, education, and healthcare to benefit narrow special interests and global corporations.

(swallows the red pill)

Since CMD first exposed ALEC in 2011, more than 100 corporations have dropped ALEC, including Verizon, Ford, Coca-Cola, Wal-Mart, General Electric, and Google. As a result of that ongoing investigation and other reporting, CMD is often contacted by whistleblowers wanting to make a difference. CMD has also researched the array of groups that are part of ALEC, including numerous Koch-funded entities and national and state "think tanks" that are affiliated with the State Policy Network.

ALEC? ah, ALEC...

ALEC provides a forum for state legislators and private sector members to collaborate on model bills—draft legislation that members may customize and introduce for debate in their own state legislatures.[5][6][7] ALEC has produced model bills on a broad range of issues, such as reducing regulation and individual and corporate taxation, combating illegal immigration, loosening environmental regulations, tightening voter identification rules, weakening labor unions, and opposing gun control.[8][9][10][11] Some of these bills dominate legislative agendas in states such as Arizona, Wisconsin, Colorado, Michigan, New Hampshire, and Maine.[12] Approximately 200 model bills become law each year.[8][13] ALEC also serves as a networking tool among certain state legislators, allowing them to research conservative policies implemented in other states.[10] Many ALEC legislators say the organization converts campaign rhetoric and nascent policy ideas into legislative language.[5]

A conservative tool.
Conservative in the sense of conserving the ongoing destruction of our planet.
Smart ALEC.

[Frank Lee]

Conservatives in Duhmerica are all about exploitation. Go figure.

[oil pan 4]

That sounds like a pretty good idea.
Generate power and heat homes.

[freebeard]

Interesting times in the USofA. Political Action Comittees hiring actors to run for Congress:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Democrats

And the same money is trying to take over the legal system.

https://realjusticepac.org/

[redpoint5]

Doesn't surprise me one bit. Regan, Arnold, and Trump's elections demonstrate that people love actors. Even CEOs and other top leaders tend to be better actors than critical thinkers. Spinning narratives is easier than just having the best ideas. Results are irrelevant when you can just frame the outcome in a flattering way.

I finally broke down and looked up AOC. I like that she's a nobody that won a major political office while spending 1/18th as much as the incumbent. That shows that the public is willing to elect regular folk (non-politicians). The unfortunate thing is that nearly every idea she has is terrible. If some of them were to be implemented in law and enforced, it would spark a bloody civil war.

Shapiro recently said that he's willing to accept the predictions of scientific study regarding global warming. He said he also accepts the scientists conclusion that if the US went carbon neutral today, we'd drop the warming by 0.17 degrees. His point is that it doesn't make sense to cripple an economy and bring it to 3rd world levels to avert a 0.17 degree rise in temperature.

My point is that less money doesn't just equal less iPhones and ice cream cones. It means more people dying earlier deaths due to less of everything including food, medicine, scientific advancement, etc.

[freebeard]

I finally broke down and looked up AOC. I like that she's a nobody that won a major political office while spending 1/18th as much as the incumbent. That shows that the public is willing to elect regular folk (non-politicians). The unfortunate thing is that nearly every idea she has is terrible. If some of them were to be implemented in law and enforced, it would spark a bloody civil war.

Then when you look closer, her backers are shuffling money around between PACs and LLCs. It appears to be some sort of shell game. The very thing they rail against.

And civil war is the point. The intersectional Neo-marxist is a racist-Marxist.

[All Darc]

Brazilian radioactive dam, with torium, uranium and radio :

https://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidian...rce=newsletter

It will take 40 years and 500 million dollars to deactivate.

[sendler]

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2...n-predicament/
.
Air you can breathe.
Water you can drink.
Food you can eat.
Clothing you can wear.
Shelter you can count on.
Energy for warmth and cooking.
Safety from internal and external harm.
Transportation of some kind.
Communications of some kind.
Ways to learn what you need to know.
Tools to do what you need to do.
Healthcare of some kind.
Justice of some kind.
Community that holds you and those you love.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by sendler

In addition, when new energy sources supplanted pre-existing ones in the past, it was always because they proved to be “superior” to those in terms of energetic quality and productivity. Coal supplanted water, wind power and biomass because it proved to be a much more powerful, convenient and versatile source of energy. Petroleum then supplanted coal because it was superior still in terms of energy density, power density, fungibility, storability, transportability, ready availability, convenience and versatility of use. On all these aspects it does not appear that solar and wind energy may be in the same way “superior” to fossil fuels – but rather that they are in fact significantly “inferior”. The capture of diffuse and intermittent energy flows through man-made devices is, inherently, an imperfect substitute for the extraction and burning of concentrated energy locked up in fossil fuels. Unfortunately, no amount of “innovation” is fundamentally going to change that.
.
https://www.resilience.org/stories/2...mate-strikers/

'was looking at EIA data in the 2019 World Almanac yesterday.A few observations:
*It took,from 1970,to 1996,for nuclear power to have a capacity factor as good as a current G.E. 12-MW off-shore wind turbine.
*In 2017,for domestic energy production,renewables exceeded natural gas condensates.
*In 2017,renewables exceeded nuclear.
*In 2017,the US economy lost $77,137,000,000 to imported petroleum.
*In 2008,crude oil was $140-bbl,and gasoline @ $4.00/gallon.(depending upon global circumstances,we could experience these numbers again)
*We criticize China's carbon footprint,while glossing over the fact that we're responsible for all the greenhouse gases it took for them to produce the $222-billion in trade goods we've purchased from them.
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*yesterday it was claimed that to go to a zero-carbon electrical grid,with the Green new Deal, it would cost $5.4-trillion,over 10-years.
That works out at $4.54/day, per capita.About the cost of a cheeseburger.
Obviously an impossible goal.
There was no arguing whether it could,or could not be done,but simply that it would wreck the economy.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

"We have met the enemy, and it is us"

Walt Kelly

The problem is that when one platform dominates, such as Twitter, it becomes indistinguishable from infrastructure. The Lounge isn't going to move the needle on public perception.

POGO for President!