The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

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Originally Posted by freebeard

Building inspectors like to be able to see the stamps on the framing lumber. What if you build in aerated concrete?

Information Gerrymandering: Solar Wind Impact, Cascadia Pattern, Truth Crisis | S0 News Oct.24.2019

If you live some where out in the county that would allow that then there probably aren't any inspectors that have seen such a thing.

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Originally Posted by aerohead

FDR poured concrete sidewalks in Denton,Texas in the 1930s for the school kids.Local developers never thought to do this for their community.Today,they're still there to walk on,86-years later.

Developers in community western Washington housing developments pour concrete sidewalks next to "environmental, beautifying" trees. With our rains, the trees grow fast. The sidewalks crack & uplift in 10 years. The city (now their responsibility, not the developers') cuts roots, re-do the sidewalks & later have to cut the trees down before the sidewalks become an obstacle course.

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Originally Posted by sendler

......doesn't have nearly as many of the worlds top climate experts..... on speed dial, as Greta.

Originally Posted by litesong

Yeah, AOC & Greta only have 100+ times more AGW savvy than "don'T rump" & re-pubic-lick-uns. I would say "1000 times more", but there might be one re-pubic-lick-un who had a little AGW info, before "don'T rump" told it to get behind the master.

News article about Greta Thunberg having a beetle named after her, Nelloptodes gretae.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50182815
Also, from the article:
There is also a moth called Neopalpa donaldtrumpi (named after "don'T rump") which, biologist Vazrick Nazari said in 2017, is known for its distinctive blonde head and "comparatively small" genitals.

[redneck]

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Originally Posted by redneck

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redneck knows "sigh-ants", the propaganda of AGW deniers.

[redpoint5]

I don't like when people take the worst photos they can find, often from a still image of a video of the person speaking, and make them look as ugly as possible. Don't like it with Greta, don't like it with Trump. Maybe that's because most every photo of me looks dumb, so I sympathize with them. Really though, it's a cheap trick to associate unattractiveness with incompetence.

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Originally Posted by redpoint5

I don't like when people take the worst photos they can find.....Don't like it with Greta......

I love that photo of Greta (& she must like it, too). The photo means what she intends. That photo is aimed at all of us oldies, with a particular glare against AGW deniers, who pump "sigh-ants".

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Originally Posted by redneck

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I wonder why she says it's a hoax.
Couldn't possibly imagine why she would say such a thing.

[freebeard]

So who's the climatologist?

I love that photo of Greta (& she must like it, too).

I don't like when people take the worst photos they can find.

I don't know where you people get your news. ??

r/TheDonald* is in quarantine, so things scroll into oblivion in about four hours, so I can't attribute this correctly, but I found the same picture via DDG Images


https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1...300/image.jpeg

Very Pacific. Vancouver agrees with her?

While we bicker about IPCC bureaucrats, science keeps happening.

https://dornsife.usc.edu/news/storie...-from-climate/

Catastrophic events carry forests of trees thousands of miles to a burial at sea
Once at the target point at sea, the U.S.-operated research ship R/V Joides Resolution, which is part of the International Ocean Discovery Program, extended a drill mechanism more than two miles down from the ocean’s surface to its floor and drilled more than a half a mile down into the sediments. They then carried the samples back to the lab, where the research team combed through the resulting core samples. They discovered wood chips in the sandy layers dating back as far as 19 million years.

Their analysis showed that wood in most layers came from lowland sources, but one layer contained wood from trees high in the mountains.

“We found pristine pieces of conifers,” Feakins said. “These trees grow two miles above sea level, up in the Himalayas.”
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The trees likely were uprooted during the last ice age by a massive release of water from the breach of a natural dam created by a glacier, landslide or similar land feature. In what must have been a surge of water, the trees rode rivers thousands of miles from Nepal through Bangladesh and into the Bengal Fan, the largest underwater sediment accumulation in the world.

The scientists, searching through other layers in the core sample, found wood from the lowlands, as well. These wood chips likely were carried to the sea by torrential rains and flooding during monsoons or cyclones that occurred many time across the 19-million-year time span.

Rivers export trees
Aside from revealing the astounding distance trees may be carried by rivers to the sea due to natural events, the study finds this tree wood is an important part of the carbon cycle.

Most of the planet’s carbon resides in rock, but the remainder flows in various forms between land, air and ocean, making its way through plants, animals and microbes as it does so.

*litesong, don't go there your head will asplode.

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I had to enter this four times because of an expired token. And tht was before the edits. I hope someone appreciates it.

redneck knows "sigh-ants", the propaganda of AGW deniers.

This translates out of litesong-speak as something of a compliment. "redneck knows science as truth." Good on you.

[redpoint5]

On a related note about "consensus", I've been quoting Crichton for years in various contexts; "Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled." I'm sure I've shared it in this thread several times already.

What I hadn't known is that he spoke publicly on the matter, so I listened to what he had to say. Some of which I didn't find very compelling, but much of it was, and mostly he shares my standpoint that predicting the future well-being of humanity on climate trends is a fool's errand. The stock market is a much simpler system, and yet nobody can create a model that will even slightly beat random chance with regards to acting on certain events. What makes us think we can model climate 100 years into the future and know with enough certainty what that means for humans, especially that it means only net negative things, that we must act to forstall warming?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDCCvOv3qZY

Then I listened to him on Charlie Rose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pcjBxNBmKA

It's fun to see how much overlap our thinking was considering he's my favorite author. Wish the fella was still around to hear more from him.