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Old 01-16-2018, 05:34 PM   #811 (permalink)
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I thought HAARP caused earthquakes?

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Old 01-16-2018, 05:49 PM   #812 (permalink)
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The globe can't be warming! It snowed in the Sahara!

https://earther.com/it-snowed-in-the...ing-1821884950
 
Old 01-16-2018, 06:22 PM   #813 (permalink)
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The globe can't be warming! It snowed in the Sahara!

https://earther.com/it-snowed-in-the...ing-1821884950
I saw that. Remarkable footage. I half expected Dennis Quaid to walk across the dunes shouting "I told you so!"
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Old 01-16-2018, 08:23 PM   #814 (permalink)
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People will still resist thorium molten salt tech because they still think it will blow up, melt down and contaminate the land with radiation.
All you have to do is find the fusion reactor Facebook shared link to see how ignorant and afraid of anything nuclear related people are.
There are a lot of people who think a fusion reactor casing breach will blow up the world.
Thanks to public education, Hollywood and the media.
(All liberal controlled institutions, gee imagine that)
I say these useful idiots are afraid of the wrong things and clearly have no idea what's really going on.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:30 PM   #815 (permalink)
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Old 01-17-2018, 01:28 AM   #816 (permalink)
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Its not science when you don't understand the entire mechanism that causes climate change - its simply deciding who's guesswork you like the most.
Modelling is not "guesswork".

Mind you, the models are not perfect, but they take into account many more factors and feedback mechanisms than you think they do. And with each refinement of the models, each added factor or feeback loop, the answer is still the same. The world is getting/going-to-get warmer.

I used to be a skeptic. Then I read up on the science. Then I became skeptical of which factors and forcings were most important. So I read some more.

And the more I read, the more apparent it became that the elephant in the room... millions of years worth of stored carbon, released through the combustion of hundreds of billions of tons of hydrocarbon fuels... our biosphere simply can't clear that out of the air and water fast enough to prevent it from affecting the climate.

Climate change is real. Global average temperature change (despite what "climategate" conspiracy theorists will lead you to believe - the discussion on correction factors for orbital decay by politicians who don't understand what correction factors are for is particularly amusing) is real. The shifting of global weather systems, causing unusually hot and cold weather is real.

Can we actually do anything about it? The math says no. But mitigation is still worth trying.

The argument, in the end, should be about what we can/should do about climatic shifts.

Instead, we're still stuck at the level where we're debating whether our ice cream is melting or not.
 
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The problem is related to what Oil Pan 4 posted. . . fear of the solution.

Whether (weather) the globe is warming or not, we have to end the use of fossil fuels if man is to move forward.

The Paris Agreements do little to mitigate the output of CO2 and cripples the world economies in the process. Better to use our industrial output to find the solution to the next industrial age. That solution is nuclear power.

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Since the AGW community is the most cherry picking of cherry pickers to ever pick cherries.
NOAA just got caught cherry picking warmer temperature data last month.
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:37 AM   #819 (permalink)
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I thought HAARP caused earthquakes?
I put 'cause' in quotes, intending a joke about 'intent'.

Sunspots determine the timing, telluric currents determine the location.

...according to science.
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