The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[oil pan 4]

Actually the ipcc is saying no where near 6 to to 10 feet of sea level rise in the next 100 years.
Where is this lunacy coming from?

Yeah they really don't like to talk about how more ice is freezing in the antarctic.
The earth is going to warm, the sea levels rise and we all die. Anything other than than that is crazy talk and you are a denyer.

[sendler]

Silk Road North East passage will be a big boost to Rotterdam.
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Belt & Road Initiative reaches the Arctic - Xinhua | English.news.cn
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[freebeard]

Where is this lunacy coming from?

Traditionally, it comes from that bottomless source of restless energy, the Moon.

That may have it backward.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Now I'm curious if the decrease in ocean salinity would allow more of it to freeze, since the freezing point of water increases as salinity decreases (inverse relationship). Perhaps this would be one type of stabilizing mechanism?

At any rate, it wouldn't counteract sea rise since floating ice has no effect on that.

... and I just found this:

Antarctica WAS expanding up until 2014 - and now it is rapidly shrinking. It was expanding because the increase of moisture due to increased evaporation - more snow was expanding it. But, now with just a bit more warming, it is shrinking.

Look here: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent

And look here: Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis | Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/26/1736170/-Weather-Channel-THERE-IS-NO-CLIMATE-CHANGE-DEBATE

[sendler]

[niky]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

According to the pew research centers 2016 poll they found the vast majority of people believe politics and money is effecting the findings of the so called climate scientists.
According to their polling only the kool-aid drinking liberals can't see it.

Say the climate change models aren't perfect, no they aren't, they are completely wrong.
Saying they are not perfect implies they are generally correct, which is a flat out lie.

Belief = / = facts

And nope, not anywhere near completely wrong.

Originally Posted by Lemmy

Climate is constantly changing, with or without the intervention of humanity. It is possible that it might be changing in a particular direction due to anthropological activity, but without that it would still be changing.

This is why it is called climate, and not same old same old.

The temperature in my living room is constantly changing.

Thus the fact that I have set the sofa on fire should be no cause for concern.

I am pretty sure the concrete walls and ceiling will survive the fire.

I sure hope I do!

Also, a reminder on how dramatic the speed of current global temperature change is:

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/earth_t...e_timeline.png

Originally Posted by oil pan

Yeah they really don't like to talk about how more ice is freezing in the antarctic.
The earth is going to warm, the sea levels rise and we all die. Anything other than than that is crazy talk and you are a denyer.

Actually, scientists DO talk about how the Antarctic ice sheet is growing.

Or rather, they're talking about how that growth has slowed down dramatically in the last few years.

Whoops.

[oil pan 4]

Like Nancy Pelosi said:
We have the votes and that's all that matters.

[NeilBlanchard]

Here's the Arctic:



And the Antarctic:



And here's Greenland:

[freebeard]

Also, a reminder on how dramatic the speed of current global temperature change is:

Thanks. I liked the entry on the domestication of doges:

"Okay you can live in our homes and we'll feed you but we'll still get mad if you poop on the floor."
"Deal."
"And we get to breed you to be tiny and dress you in little costumes."
"...wait."

Also Crater Lake gets a mention.

[freebeard]

Two things of note today. So much has happened in the last week that Suspicious 0bservers put up a special posting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Khb3yihxN8

And I saw something on China reversing desertification:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8_Hnmty4vY

it's amazing what an ethno-state with singlemindedness of purpose can accomplish.