The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP

[freebeard]

The coral provides the calcium carbonate scaffold on which the algae populate.
The algae give coral its color.

Above my pay grade. The link has it that coral don't need reefs. Here's another:

https://oceanconservancy.org › blog › 2022 › 08 › 11 › soft-corals
All About Soft Corals - Ocean Conservancy
Aug 11, 2022 Soft corals are found all over the world but mostly in tropical or subtropical waters. While soft corals don't create iconic reefs, they do live on them. Soft corals also grow and thrive in the deep sea. Mature soft corals are attached to the seabed, but their larvae are free-floating and can drift

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Above my pay grade. The link has it that coral don't need reefs. Here's another:

The scientific interest in 'preserving' reefs lies in food-dependence upon the reefs , associated with 1-billion souls on Earth.
But that's what happens when you give someone a liberal arts education.

[aerohead]

Yesterday, the Heat-Index in Mexico City, Mexico, was 125-F. Temperatures in this region are the highest in recorded history, which is a 'LONG' time span, considering the Spanish occupation, and meticulous record-keeping.
There's a heat-dome parked over the region, and it's affecting the amount of 'fuel' feeding super-cell production, and their tornadoes, like the one that killed neighbors to the north Saturday.
The Hurricane Prediction Center has taken the historic North Atlantic, Caribbean, and Gulf of Mexico sea surface temperatures ,due to global-warming, into account for the 2024 season, and models show the highest number of named storms in history ( 25 ) for the period, starting in June.
By this morning, we'd already experienced a 'year's worth of rain. About the time it dries up enough to work outdoors, another thunderstorm come by.
The BOLT is parked on wood cribbing, above a pool of water, which would ultimately become the 'pit' from which I could fabricate its belly pan. The house is wet. Tiger-striped mosquitos are fat and sassy! Dengue Fever has been added to my 'bucket list.'
Neighbor's kid up the road has succeeded in about 6-mpg with his F-250. 'Rolls coal' and burns rubber wherever he's at.
Leaves me with a warm, fuzzy feeling.

[freebeard]

But that's what happens when you give someone a liberal arts education.

How did you know? Yes, it's a B.S. degree, but I paid for it myself.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by aerohead

3) Ocean corral reefs are experiencing their 4th mass bleaching event, which are now, two per decade.
4) It takes from ten, to forty years for a corral reef to recover from a bleaching event.
5) Obviously, there's presently not enough time in between events for the corral to recover.

I recall hearing somewhere that reefs are proliferating, not in decline. Just because there is a moment in time of decline does not mean that is the trajectory, just as whatever the stock market does tomorrow is not an indication of where it will be years later.

This professor says reefs love warm water, which is why you find them in the tropics and nowhere else. Increasing temperatures will cause accelerated growth. Bleaching is not the death of reefs, but a transition in response to environmental change. Corral are not the canaries, but the cockroaches of the sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGtk-BN1MgY

Who wants to fund research that that can't be monetized by panic?

[aerohead]

Perhaps he's under-informed, misinformed, speaking out of context, or things that must remain unspoken.
I reviewed my notes the other night, he clearly didn't get the 'memo' on the present situation.

[freebeard]

I reviewed my notes the other night, he clearly didn't get the 'memo' on the present situation.

There's a 'memo'?

I can't focus enough to read this whole thing, but I did catch this:

www.nature.com: Abrupt reduction in shipping emission as an inadvertent geoengineering termination shock produces substantial radiative warming

The warming effect of anthropogenic greenhouse gases has been partially balanced by the cooling effect of anthropogenic aerosols. In 2020, fuel regulations abruptly reduced the emission of sulfur dioxide from international shipping by about 80% and created an inadvertent geoengineering termination shock with global impact. Here we estimate the regulation leads to a radiative forcing of +0.2 ±0.11Wm−2 averaged over the global ocean. The amount of radiative forcing could lead to a doubling (or more) of the warming rate in the 2020 s compared with the rate since 1980 with strong spatiotemporal heterogeneity.

"The best laid schemes o’ Mice an’ Men Gang aft agley," -- Robert Burns

[redpoint5]

The takeaway is that coral are very resilient, but require warm water to thrive.

If we wanted to stabilize food gathering from the sea at a particular production rate, we would agree upon an international set of rules and enforce them.

My guess is that lab-grown seafood will become just as commonplace as lab-grown beef, pork, or chicken. Fools rely on their skill and availability of prey to subsist, and the wise increase availability by leveraging all of their skills. There's a reason farming supplanted hunting / gathering, and that those cultures are relegated to history.

[freebeard]

https://www.fastcompany.com › 2680343 › a-gentler-fish-farm-powered-by-a-geodesic-dome
A Gentler Fish Farm, Powered By A Geodesic Dome - Fast Company
Steve Page's Buckminster Fuller-inspired free-floating fish farms may be the solution to those problems, and where your future sushi grew up. BY Peter Smith 2 minute read

Another case where geodesic domes are crucial in the future.

edit:
I just looked upthread to compare Posts and Thanks versus Thanked for various posters. I've made twice as many posts as many and I'm closing in on twice aerohead's contributions.*

My Thanks/Thanked ratio is typical, but aerohead has Thanked others three times as often as he's been Thanked. ?? It's just his nature, I suppose; but I think that ratio should be the opposite.

*My conclusion is I should get a life.

[Piotrsko]

Need a different method for getting a posters attention. Thanking someone typically causes bells and whistles in the header of most forums.