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Old 07-03-2024, 11:38 AM   #1501 (permalink)
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Hurricane Beryl

Those watching the news may have picked up on Beryl's 'historic' nature:
For June/July, it's the 'earliest' ( by 15-days ), most powerful ( CAT-5 ), with 165-mph winds, rapidly-intensifying ( went from a 'Tropical Storm' to a major hurricane within 48-hours ), forming in water temperatures not normally seen until September.

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Old 07-04-2024, 10:34 AM   #1502 (permalink)
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But how far from statistical norms is it? I typically consider anything less than 1.5% to be random noise in the data
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But how far from statistical norms is it?
You'd expect the statistical norms to be skewed during an event like the collapse of the Earth's magnetosphere and pole shift.

Which is happening now.

Edit: Climate scientists can't agree on how warm it is -- Sabine Hossenfelder
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But how far from statistical norms is it? I typically consider anything less than 1.5% to be random noise in the data
They're not reporting anything besides a 'historic' event, based upon the extant database.
* The 'earliness' ( June/July ) of a CAT-5 storm 'is' a statistical outlier ( 15-days )
* The sea surface temperatures necessary to fuel the creation of a CAT-5 'are' a statistical outlier ( by 'two months' ).
* Timing of the 'rapid-intensification' 'is' a statistical outlier ( 48-hours )
* The strength of the storm ( CAT-5 ) is a statistical outlier.
The National Hurricane Prediction Center would be able to inform you where to look for any required comparison-related data.
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You'd expect the statistical norms to be skewed during an event like the collapse of the Earth's magnetosphere and pole shift.

Which is happening now.

Edit: Climate scientists can't agree on how warm it is -- Sabine Hossenfelder
'Claptrap'
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'Claptrap'
What? That's Sabine Hossenfelder, not Ben Davidson.

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Episode 2527 CWSA 07/05/24
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58:54 ...you going to say but but Scott they're scientists and they care about
59:00 the truth that's exactly what your journalist would say we're journalists our job is to tell you the
59:07 truth with no spin just like the scientists unless our paycheck and our
59:14 lifestyle depends on it and then we're going to say what the narrative tells
59:19 us well it turns out that there are three papers recently Wide Awake media is reporting on this on next um and uh
59:29 there are three new papers that are peer-reviewed that uh collectively they say that 40% of what we observe as a
59:37 heat increase is really the heat island effect from thermometers being too near
59:43 uh cities that are building out in the direction of where the thermometers were in the first place 60% seems to match
59:51 perfectly solar activity ouch
59:57 ouch yikes ...
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We know the earth has been hotter. We dont know the particulars or what survived and why. We do know what died and became fossilized but that isn't everywhere.
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What? That's Sabine Hossenfelder, not Ben Davidson.

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Scientists don't use the word 'truth.'
The 'facts' that they publish result from 'trends', teased from the 'scatter-plots' of 'field data', employing the highest order 'statistical analysis' tools available, using 'supercomputers' available only to the likes of multinational corporations, national laboratories, and universities.
Anyone still talking about 'heat island effects' needs to be arrested.
Anyone still talking about 'solar forcing' needs to join them.
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We know the earth has been hotter. We dont know the particulars or what survived and why. We do know what died and became fossilized but that isn't everywhere.
* Yes, Earth has been hotter.
* We know how hot it was the last time there were the same amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere as exists today.
* We know the limits of temperature at which humans can no longer survive outdoors.
* We know how high sea level was.
* We know how much 'land, and 'arable farmland' will be submerged.
* We know how much 'inland' soil will be destroyed by saltwater intrusion, as ocean water is carried there during high tides and storm surge.
* We know what that does with respect to plant and tree growth.
* We know what that does with respect to animal survival.
* We know what tropical diseases do in those conditions.
* We know what it does with plant-destroying insects.
* We know about the spread of insect-borne disease.
* We know about insect-borne parasites.
* We know what crop diseases do.
* We know what happens to mountain glaciers and the rivers they feed.
* We know what happens with glacial lake dam bursts.
* We know what happens to polar ice.
* We know what happens to the marine food chain.
* We know more than ever before about what it does to the redistribution of water vapor, rain, snow, drought, atmospheric rivers, soil saturation, soil erosion, flash flooding, river cresting, levees, dams, hail, derechos, straight-line winds, tornados, water spouts, topical cyclones, wild fires, downed trees, downed power lines, power outages, potable water shortages, flood-related sewage contamination of municipal water supplies,........................
We know quite a bit about 'particulars.'
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Anyone still talking about 'heat island effects' needs to be arrested.
So much for free and open discourse.

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