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We know quite a bit about 'particulars.'
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We surmise the particulars. Weren't there to measure them.
Seen numerous predictions of the past that get revised after some new technology or method of measuring evolves to become accepted mainstream
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07-09-2024, 04:22 PM
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Took a pass through Phys.org:
phys.org: High elevation regions may become wildlife refuges through climate change
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These simulations also extrapolated climate heterogeneity through the reminder of the century, identifying locations that may experience reduced climate variability, such as North America which is at an average elevation of ~1600 m and predicted to experience a mean temperature of 14.2°C.
Meanwhile, high elevation colder refugia identified include the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau at more than 4,100 m, which is predicted to experience temperatures of 5.9°C during 2070–2098, but is already warming at an enhanced rate of 0.44°C per decade, twice the global average.
This research is significant as projections suggest up to 46% of land surfaces may transition to warmer and drier conditions by the end of the century, with this homogenization of climate types potentially threatening habitat and species distributions.
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Some of it goes right over my head:
phys.org: Can a computer chip have zero energy loss in 1.58 dimensions?
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What if we could find a way to make electric currents flow, without energy loss? A promising approach for this involves using materials known as topological insulators. They are known to exist in one (wire), two (sheet) and three (cube) dimensions; all with different possible applications in electronic devices.
Theoretical physicists at Utrecht University, together with experimentalists at Shanghai Jiao Tong University, have discovered that topological insulators may also exist at 1.58 dimensions, and that these could be used for energy-efficient information processing. Their study was published in Nature Physics.
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Fractals. What can't they do?
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07-10-2024, 02:35 PM
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www.yahoo.com/: We’ve been accidentally cooling the planet — and it’s about to stop
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And now, as society cleans up pollution, that cooling effect is waning. New regulations have cut the amount of sulfur aerosols from global shipping traffic across the oceans; China, fighting its own air pollution problem, has slashed sulfur pollution dramatically in the last decade.
The result is even warmer temperatures - but exactly how much warmer is still under debate. The answer will have lasting impacts on humanity’s ability to meet its climate goals.
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But the real issue is still ahead. Currently, the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change estimates that aerosols are masking about 0.5 degrees Celsius of global warming. But that value could be as high as 1 degree or as low as 0.2 degrees - and the difference could be the difference between meeting the goals of the 2015 Paris agreement or not.
If aerosols have been masking cooling much more than expected, for example, the world could be poised to blow past its climate targets without realizing it.
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07-10-2024, 02:41 PM
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So those "coal-rollers" are doing us a favor :P My question is, do the climate models take that into account?
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07-12-2024, 07:48 PM
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Google and DDG can't find the page where there was some agreement that the Grand Canyon is a Lichtenberg figure. I found this video on Youtube that purports to examine the various claims on the Canyon's origin. Creation controversy: Grand Canyon He goes on about how the first explorers viewed it from the river, and later they viewed it from the rim. Covers New Creationists and Old Creationists and the Native American story, and how the naming implicated all the World's religions.
No mention of the view from LEO.
www.cosmic-core.org: Article 132: The Holographic Universe - Part 1 - Fractals & Holography
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“The Grand Canyon is approximately 400 kilometers long, 28 kilometers wide, and almost two kilometers deep. Could erosion by the Colorado River be the only factor in its formation?
A few basic facts are necessary to gain a perspective. The Grand Canyon is surrounded by an elevated landscape with the canyon running through it from east to west. The underlying rock strata in the region rises and falls over an area known as the Kaibab Upwarp, while the river descends through an elevation differential of 2100 meters. Water does not flow up over a mountain range nor does it run sideways along sloping terrain, so all theoretical models that insist on water erosion propose that the entire area was slowly uplifted at the same rate as the river eroded the canyon. This process is said to have taken place in a time span of between four million and 400 million years.
.... Perhaps the most significant challenge to the prevailing theories is the disappearance of almost 1300 cubic kilometers of material that is supposed to have been washed downstream—there is no large delta at the mouth of the Colorado River containing the debris.
Satellite images, as well as pictures taken by astronauts in orbit, seem to indicate that the Grand Canyon is an enormous Lichtenberg figure, in other words, a gigantic lightning scar. As the Electric Universe hypothesis suggests, electric discharge machining (EDM) might account for the Canyon’s appearance: steep walls, thousands of layers, brachiated side canyons at practically every scale, and periodic, hemispherical “nips” cut into each rim.
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1300 cubic kilometers of material straight into Inner Space.
The linked page is a pretty good one. It cover fractals, holograms and the Platonic solids as closest packed spheres.
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07-13-2024, 02:28 AM
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Google and DDG can't find the page where there was some agreement that the Grand Canyon is a Lichtenberg figure.
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My only frame of reference is loading electrons into acrylic with an electron accelerator, and then rapidly discharging said electrons. Since it's not recommended, I would never do it for something as trivial as art.
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07-13-2024, 12:29 PM
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Art is trivial? Tell that to Robt. Williams
Electromagnetism is scale invariant. Here's an example from a lightning strike:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/06/ad...e9acac3983.jpg
But still -- 1300 cubic kilometers of material. Valles Marineris stretches 1/4 of the way around Mars.
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07-13-2024, 12:54 PM
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' zero energy loss '
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On the face of it, it represents a violation of 'entropy', for 'real systems' as per the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.
'Cold Fusion' would be an analogue.
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'free and open'
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So much for free and open discourse.
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The paid climate deniers, who brought the topic up for the popular press, were stupid enough not to, look into, and realize that, 'heat island effects' had 'always' been included in the general circulation models.
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' surmise'
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We surmise the particulars. Weren't there to measure them.
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Every conceivable branch of the life sciences have been actively involved in what would constitute ' large cohort, double-bind, placebo-controlled, randomized, clinical trials, under strict laboratory conditions to actually 'know' conditional 'effects', from conditional 'drivers.'
The data is from 'direct' measurement.
Paleo data represents known climatological conditions derived from 'proxies', cross-referenced to others of the same temporal distribution, with high confidence of confirmation of exactitude.
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