The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP

[freebeard]

Does she have any point and any evidence I should be aware of

Prolly not. She may be a fan of Megan Markle, I haven't watched that one.

I'm just a sucker for Bettie Page bangs.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

1) If that's true, then NASA's improved it's models.
2) If that's true, B.D. will be getting his data from NASA.
3) If that's true, then, as always, I've no need of B.D., I'll just get the straight scoop directly from NASA.
4) And NASA isn't telling me that I have a problem like that.
5) Which makes your conclusion that I'm 'wrong' quite dubious.
6) And take your argument to about the consequences of 'if' and 'when' to National Geographic. They did the research.
7) If there's a 'Carrington Event', and we have a problem, it will be a 'capitalism' problem, not a Carrington Event problem.
8) I won't attribute your comment to malice, just ignorance.

It is true every word of it.
There is no if, if is for the ignorant and catastrophically optimistic.
Even nasa says there is an 11% chance per solar cycle of a Carrington event happening again.
You are almost always wrong.
NASA and noaa completely missed the last x class flare. Didn't send out any notices, didn't update the space weather map until it hit. Unless last Thursday was a federal holiday I'm unaware of.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

Perhaps only in New Mexico, does pandemic science have something to do with climate science.

Both are only about power and control. Neither offers a solution to the problem unless the solution is spending more money, expansion of government, restrictions on rights.
Both have surprising commonality. You aren't allowed to question the narrative in either case, it's considered settled science by its followers and sycophants, both are followed blindly like a religion.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

It is true every word of it.
There is no if, if is for the ignorant and catastrophically optimistic.
Even nasa says there is an 11% chance per solar cycle of a Carrington event happening again.
You are almost always wrong.
NASA and noaa completely missed the last x class flare. Didn't send out any notices, didn't update the space weather map until it hit. Unless last Thursday was a federal holiday I'm unaware of.

1) an 11% chance every 11-years of what? ( 1% per year vs 99% nothing )
2) a 'Carrington Event' ?
3) a CME ?
4) Flares never leave the Sun, they fall back into it.
5) A CME can detach from a flare.
6) Traveling along a Parker Spiral.
7) Is that what you mean to say?
8) Who didn't miss the last x-class flare?
9) Did B. D. send out a warning?
10) It hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11) What did it hit?
12) My Earth is still intact.
13) Did your world end?

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Both are only about power and control. Neither offers a solution to the problem unless the solution is spending more money, expansion of government, restrictions on rights.
Both have surprising commonality. You aren't allowed to question the narrative in either case, it's considered settled science by its followers and sycophants, both are followed blindly like a religion.

non-factual
Illogical
Incoherent
irrational
underinformed?
misinformed?
lied to?
duped?
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If you want to argue science, you might want to argue the science.
If climate science is 'wrong', then electricity is wrong.
The existence of a FLUKE VOM is a myth.
Amprobe clamp-on ammeters are a fiction.
Ohms Law is just psychobabel.
Right hand rule never existed.
Motors and wiring should be operated at 180-C.
DC should always be directly connected to AC. What difference does it make?
Electromagnetism is just a leftist, liberal, communist hoax.
If flux-core solder existed, you'd want to inhale all its vapors.
Forget oscilloscopes, they never existed.
Shottky barrier diodes can look kinda like transistors, just use them interchangeably!
Heat sinks? Heat is a hoax!
Don't direct an infrared pyrometer towards an overheating transformer.
Transformers! As if they actually had primary and secondary windings inside.
There's no such thing as infrared radiation.
There's no such thing as temperature.
Any talk of overheating is just scare-mongering
Always wire 3-phase motors to single-phase sources.
60-Hertz? Why not 600? What's in a number? Cycles don't exists.
High-tension lines? Why waste money on expensive ceramic insulators?
They don't make any difference. Everyone and their dog knows that.
Ground fault circuit interrupters? You've got to be kidding!
Fuses? They're for sissies!
Circuit-breakers ? You've got to be nuts!
Insulated wiring. Like that would help.
Wave-soldering? Sure. Cowabunga dude!
Utility sub-stations. Just a waiting children's jungle-jim.
Sizing conductors for ampacity. You're kidding, right?
Like DC voltage drop was a thing.

[freebeard]

Punctuation is fun:

"[A]n 11% chance every 11-years of what? ( 1% per year vs 99% nothing ), a 'Carrington Event' ?, a CME ?

Flares never leave the Sun, they fall back into it. A CME can detach from a flare, traveling along a Parker Spiral. Is that what you mean to say?

Who didn't miss the last x-class flare? Did B. D. send out a warning? It hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What did it hit? My Earth is still intact. Did your world end?"

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7) If there's a 'Carrington Event', and we have a problem, it will be a 'capitalism' problem, not a Carrington Event problem.

Socialist/Communist countries electrical grids will prevail? Oh noes!

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Punctuation is fun:

"[A]n 11% chance every 11-years of what? ( 1% per year vs 99% nothing ), a 'Carrington Event' ?, a CME ?

Flares never leave the Sun, they fall back into it. A CME can detach from a flare, traveling along a Parker Spiral. Is that what you mean to say?

Who didn't miss the last x-class flare? Did B. D. send out a warning? It hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What did it hit? My Earth is still intact. Did your world end?"

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Socialist/Communist countries electrical grids will prevail? Oh noes!

1) First thing, leave my text alone!
2) If you want to participate, discuss the topic at hand.
3) I parse things out for those who can't focus on more than one visual bite at a time.
4) This is Montessori method.
5) It's not about spelling, punctuation, or grammar.
6) Just content.
7) The 'capitalist' comment is attributed to National Geographic.
8) The context for the comment has to do with corporate decision-makers, not willing to invest in spare transformers, some, so specialized that, should you suddenly need one, you may be waiting a lot longer to get, than rate payers are willing to go without power.
9) A 'Carrington Event' will fry transformers, can damage satellites, and interrupt communications.
10) As long as spare-parts are on hand, power-outages will be at a minimum.
11) Aircraft can fly with inertial gyro-compass.
12) GPS usually comes back on by itself after magnetic storms pass.

[freebeard]

1) Excuse me.
4) DDG/?q=Montessori+method+text+structure does not offer a clue. Citation?
5) I'm reminded of computer code line numbering
8-9) this is sufficient and less verbose

2) If you want to participate, discuss the topic at hand.

Like this?

non-factual
Illogical
Incoherent
irrational
underinformed?
misinformed?
lied to?
duped?
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If you want to argue science, you might want to argue the science.
If climate science is 'wrong', then electricity is wrong.
The existence of a FLUKE VOM is a myth.
Amprobe clamp-on ammeters are a fiction.
Ohms Law is just psychobabel.
Right hand rule never existed.
Motors and wiring should be operated at 180-C.
DC should always be directly connected to AC. What difference does it make?
Electromagnetism is just a leftist, liberal, communist hoax.
If flux-core solder existed, you'd want to inhale all its vapors.
Forget oscilloscopes, they never existed.
Shottky barrier diodes can look kinda like transistors, just use them interchangeably!
Heat sinks? Heat is a hoax!
Don't direct an infrared pyrometer towards an overheating transformer.
Transformers! As if they actually had primary and secondary windings inside.
There's no such thing as infrared radiation.
There's no such thing as temperature.
Any talk of overheating is just scare-mongering
Always wire 3-phase motors to single-phase sources.
60-Hertz? Why not 600? What's in a number? Cycles don't exists.
High-tension lines? Why waste money on expensive ceramic insulators?
They don't make any difference. Everyone and their dog knows that.
Ground fault circuit interrupters? You've got to be kidding!
Fuses? They're for sissies!
Circuit-breakers ? You've got to be nuts!
Insulated wiring. Like that would help.
Wave-soldering? Sure. Cowabunga dude!
Utility sub-stations. Just a waiting children's jungle-jim.
Sizing conductors for ampacity. You're kidding, right?
Like DC voltage drop was a thing.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

non-factual
Illogical
Incoherent
irrational
underinformed?
misinformed?
lied to?
duped?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you want to argue science, you might want to argue the science.
If climate science is 'wrong', then electricity is wrong.
The existence of a FLUKE VOM is a myth.
Amprobe clamp-on ammeters are a fiction.
Ohms Law is just psychobabel.
Right hand rule never existed.
Motors and wiring should be operated at 180-C.
DC should always be directly connected to AC. What difference does it make?
Electromagnetism is just a leftist, liberal, communist hoax.
If flux-core solder existed, you'd want to inhale all its vapors.
Forget oscilloscopes, they never existed.
Shottky barrier diodes can look kinda like transistors, just use them interchangeably!
Heat sinks? Heat is a hoax!
Don't direct an infrared pyrometer towards an overheating transformer.
Transformers! As if they actually had primary and secondary windings inside.
There's no such thing as infrared radiation.
There's no such thing as temperature.
Any talk of overheating is just scare-mongering
Always wire 3-phase motors to single-phase sources.
60-Hertz? Why not 600? What's in a number? Cycles don't exists.
High-tension lines? Why waste money on expensive ceramic insulators?
They don't make any difference. Everyone and their dog knows that.
Ground fault circuit interrupters? You've got to be kidding!
Fuses? They're for sissies!
Circuit-breakers ? You've got to be nuts!
Insulated wiring. Like that would help.
Wave-soldering? Sure. Cowabunga dude!
Utility sub-stations. Just a waiting children's jungle-jim.
Sizing conductors for ampacity. You're kidding, right?
Like DC voltage drop was a thing.

Now that's incoherent. He really loses it when caught in a lie.
Here is an article using small words not written or referenced by Ben Davison explaining the dangers and chances of another solar super storm.
https://www.wired.com/2012/02/massive-solar-flare/

[freebeard]

phys.org via Slashdot:

science.slashdot.org/story: Lab Turns Hard-To-Process Plastic Waste Into Carbon-Capture Master (phys.org)

What seems like a win-win for a pair of pressing environmental problems describes a Rice University lab's newly discovered chemical technique to turn waste plastic into an effective carbon dioxide (CO2) sorbent for industry. Rice chemist James Tour and co-lead authors Rice alumnus Wala Algozeeb, graduate student Paul Savas and postdoctoral researcher Zhe Yuan reported in the American Chemical Society journal ACS Nano that heating plastic waste in the presence of potassium acetate produced particles with nanometer-scale pores that trap carbon dioxide molecules. These particles can be used to remove CO2 from flue gas streams, they reported.
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The lab estimates the cost of carbon dioxide capture from a point source like post-combustion flue gas would be $21 a ton, far less expensive than the energy-intensive, amine-based process in common use to pull carbon dioxide from natural gas feeds, which costs $80-$160 a ton. Like amine-based materials, the sorbent can be reused. Heating it to about 75 degrees Celsius (167 degrees Fahrenheit) releases trapped carbon dioxide from the pores, regenerating about 90% of the material's binding sites. Because it cycles at 75 degrees Celsius, polyvinyl chloride vessels are sufficient to replace the expensive metal vessels that are normally required.

Four- to eight-fold decrease in cost of flu recovery.