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Old 07-22-2021, 10:09 AM   #221 (permalink)
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What about the app for your phone that detects small shakes via P waves? There was a theory that a swarm of below 1 magnitude shakes appear before massive events, so someone wrote a phone app to detect those and Cali gave the app away to users like the seti idle computer screensaver.

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Old 07-23-2021, 01:26 AM   #222 (permalink)
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Here's a backgrounder on magnetism, from the compass in your hand to galactic poloidal jets.


As per usual, they downplay the electro- part of electro-magnetism.
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:37 AM   #223 (permalink)
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All you need is a few minutes warning to get outta buildings and away from stuff that can fall on you.
The sensors appear to sit at ground level, maybe as deep as a water well. No special technology required.
If they had some government money then maybe it could be a thing. But according to the government earthquakes can't be predicted, even by a few minutes.
There are, what are called 'deep focus' earthquakes. Seismic activity happening at depths of 400- kilometers below surface level can effect triggers along fault boundaries.
No one has ever drilled a hole any deeper than 10-miles ( 16-kilometers ). With present technology, it's impossible to instrument these areas.
All 20,000 quakes / year would need to be predicted. On the continents and undersea.
Emptying thousands of people out of skyscrapers and safely getting millions of them out of urban areas and above tsunami levels might require larger time domains. Mass burial sites are already designated for these victims in California.
The US NAVY has the ocean floor littered with hydrophones which can detect a whale fart at 2,000-miles, but in the event of 'hearing' even a tremor, they wouldn't be allowed to communicate its existence, as doing so, could give away state secrets to our adversaries. One downside to secrecy/ national security.
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What about the app for your phone that detects small shakes via P waves? There was a theory that a swarm of below 1 magnitude shakes appear before massive events, so someone wrote a phone app to detect those and Cali gave the app away to users like the seti idle computer screensaver.
I know someone advocating for a similar app from the doppler radar sites, in which, once an observational 'threshold' for tornadic activity is exceeded, a 'heads-up' is immediately sent.
They don't want a, ' The sky is falling' freak-out every time a cloud burps, but all the lead time in advance of a supercell would be welcome.
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Here's a backgrounder on magnetism, from the compass in your hand to galactic poloidal jets.


As per usual, they downplay the electro- part of electro-magnetism.
* intergalactic charged particles would be stopped at the Heliopause, 100- Astronomical Units away, so they'd never get into our solar system.
* cosmic particles and neutral particles would pass right through, but, without charge, wouldn't affect magnetism.
* in the video of the CME leaving the Sun, you can visibly see the inverse-square-law before you're very eyes, as the 'mass' grows fainter and fainter, diffusing with increased distance from the Sun.
* the solar wind has a magnetic strength of 0.00000002- tesla
* lodestone has a magnetic strength of 0.001-tesla
* a refrigerator magnet has a strength of 0.3-tesla
* Earth's magnetosphere has a strength of 0.00005-tesla.
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There are, what are called 'deep focus' earthquakes. Seismic activity happening at depths of 400- kilometers below surface level can effect triggers along fault boundaries.
No one has ever drilled a hole any deeper than 10-miles ( 16-kilometers ). With present technology, it's impossible to instrument these areas.
All 20,000 quakes / year would need to be predicted. On the continents and undersea.
Emptying thousands of people out of skyscrapers and safely getting millions of them out of urban areas and above tsunami levels might require larger time domains. Mass burial sites are already designated for these victims in California.
The US NAVY has the ocean floor littered with hydrophones which can detect a whale fart at 2,000-miles, but in the event of 'hearing' even a tremor, they wouldn't be allowed to communicate its existence, as doing so, could give away state secrets to our adversaries. One downside to secrecy/ national security.
That's another strawman. There is no need or reason to predict all 20,000 world wide earth quakes. Only need to predict the powerful damaging ones in first world countries and most of the first world counties have active tsunami warning systems and are capable of detecting under sea quakes and waring the s-hole countries that there could be a tsunami on its way.
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That's another strawman. There is no need or reason to predict all 20,000 world wide earth quakes. Only need to predict the powerful damaging ones in first world countries and most of the first world counties have active tsunami warning systems and are capable of detecting under sea quakes and waring the s-hole countries that there could be a tsunami on its way.
If they're so easy to predict, that a lawyer, without any science background, living out of an RV can do it, what could be the problem? It couldn't be economics!
Seems like a global luxury, at no cost, we can easily afford. No downside.
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Another strawman. I know you don't have any valid points so you attack the messenger.
So just stick with your comically outdated science.

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- misleading because Aerohead has been proved utterly wrong and is fighting a stupid rear-guard action where black is white (or vice versa) - about 20 percent, but rising quickly.
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* the solar wind has a magnetic strength of 0.00000002- tesla
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* Earth's magnetosphere has a strength of 0.00005-tesla.
Those are not constants. The heliosphere (and Earth's magnetosphere) constantly shrink and grow.

Cosmic rays/particles arrive at Earth, not all are stopped at the Heliospheric boundary.
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So you watched it? Did the overall message sink in, that the compass in your hand can lead to galactic poloidal jets?
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Your inverse-square law applies to omnidirectional radiation. Not to plasma sheaths, flux tubes and spicules.

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Here's Alfven's 1970 Nobel prize-winning lecture: www.nobelprize.org/uploads/2018/06/alfven-lecture.pdf

A lot of it is over my pay grade, I just point toward it.

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There are, what are called 'deep focus' earthquakes.
Blot echos. See Permalink #219.
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Those are not constants. The heliosphere (and Earth's magnetosphere) constantly shrink and grow.

Cosmic rays/particles arrive at Earth, not all are stopped at the Heliospheric boundary.


So you watched it? Did the overall message sink in, that the compass in your hand can lead to galactic poloidal jets?
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Your inverse-square law applies to omnidirectional radiation. Not to plasma sheaths, flux tubes and spicules.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_tube

Here's Alfven's 1970 Nobel prize-winning lecture: www.nobelprize.org/uploads/2018/06/alfven-lecture.pdf

A lot of it is over my pay grade, I just point toward it.



Blot echos. See Permalink #219.
* Yes, they would the statistical mean average.
* Yes, cosmic particles come right in, as I stated.
* Yes, I watched it. Great video!
* Yes, the needle could, but how would we know a source?
* Plasma is ions and nuclei ( particles ) which could collide with slower-moving solar wind, affecting its kinetic energy, velocity.
* the flux tube is a constant, but not the field its embedded within in. The flux tube doesn't leave the Sun.
* spicules are limited to the chromosphere. They're also plasma ( ions and nuclei ), they don't 'leave' the Sun.

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