Cosmic Catastrophe

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

* Lightning can heat rock to more than 3,000-F ( 1,600-C)
* The boiling point of quartz rock is 2,230-C.
* As quartz 'steam' adiabatically cools to 2,229-C upon rising, it returns to liquid lava droplets, and at approximately 1,650-C would solidify to a quartz particulate aerosol.
* It appears that lightning would need an additional 630-C temperature increase in order to just get rock 'vapor' into the atmosphere.
* An electric arc welder generates 6,500-F. Welding vapors are not at escape velocity, and remain at Earth.

Not talking about lightning. This woud be more like an inner most shell magnetic field collapse or some other unknown mechanism.
2,800 cubic miles of earth normally does not simply disappear, until it does.
We know the dirt didn't move by normal water erosion or a great flood.

[redneck]

Originally Posted by aerohead

* If you've been there, you know that the Colorado River runs through it.
* You also know that it rains there.
* You know that it snows there.
* You probably know that as water freezes and turns to ice it expands.
* Freezing rain and freezing snow-melt inside rocks split rocks apart.
* Fractured rock falls.
* Falling rock striking rock fractures rock further.
* Floods move boulders, rock, pebbles, sand, and silt.
* The Colorado River wasn't dammed until the 1930s.
* In the distant past, a large portion of North America was covered by the Laurentide Ice Sheet.
* Geologists know that melting ice sheets sometimes form inland seas.
* Geologists also know that, sometimes these inland seas are held in by rock and earthen 'dams.'
* Should one of these 'dams' rupture, the entire volume of the inland sea will flow through the rupture, carrying everything in its path, downhill, all the way to the ocean.
* Short of Glaciers scouring out solid rock, moving water is the next most powerful way to terra-form.
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Nobody knows the actual age of the Grand Canyon. The following link suggests that it could have taken 70-million years to form. That would place it in the Cretaceous Period, before the Alps existed, before the Sierra Nevada Mountains existed. Before the Rocky Mountains existed. Before the mass extinction of all dinosaurs and 90% of species on Earth.
If you continuously dig, for 70,000,000-years, you end up with a pretty big ditch. All rock debris carried downstream during annul floods.
Our last ICE AGE was 3-million years ago.
https://www.nationalparks.org/connec...you-never-knew

So...

The long story short is that you can’t tell us where the 2,800 cubic miles of debris ended up.

Got it...




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[freebeard]

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It gets worse. All those mesas throughout the Southwest? The tops were the original ground level. All that wide open country in between them was electrically machined away.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunder...11_se_teu4.htm

Dave Smith -- February 11, 2010

Through this series of Special Edition Thunderblogs it is emerging that the electric theory of comets offers a far superior explanation of observations than does the standard model. Having previously explored the main features of comets it is now pertinent to take a closer look at their many enigmatic surface features such as spires, pits and craters.
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The images of comet nuclei from passing spacecraft support a complex history. The surface features of Comet Borrelly [above] were described as “Earth-like.” Dr. Dan Britt, a meteoriticist in the University of Tennessee's Planetary Geosciences Institute, noted that the mesas on Borrelly resembled those in the American Southwest. In a characteristic understatement, NASA scientists described the findings as “somewhat surprising.”

It is no overstatement to say that none of the defining features of comet nuclei has met the expectations of the Whipple model. In contrast their features are consistent with—and predictable—under the electric comet model.

[redneck]

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19,999 posts...

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[Piotrsko]

Originally Posted by redneck

So...

The long story short is that you can’t tell us where the 2,800 cubic miles of debris ended up.

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Yuma Arizona more or less, best I can see.

[redneck]

Yuma Arizona more or less, best I can see.

Do you have any information and or links that supports this hypothesis ?

As far as I know. Nobody can point to what happened to the missing material. It just doesn’t exist in sufficient quantities anywhere to account for erosion as being the main cause. 🤷


Update.

I was looking for something else and came across this news that was just released a couple of days ago.


The Grand Canyon lacks a billion years of geological history

https://eminetra.com/the-grand-canyo...istory/710917/


Billion years of rock missing.

No definitive answers.

More conjecture leading to more questions.


In all honesty, to say we know how the Grand Canyon was formed at this point is fraught with folly.

There is nothing else on Earth 🌎 like it to compare to.

Well...

Unless, it’s under the sea..


At this point in time however, it’s a true Enigma...





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[oil pan 4]

So Aerohead's Victorian answer of errors, erosion, little floods, great floods, wind, is open to not being accepted by main stream science.
Hopefully what ever caused it is only a once in millions of years kind of thing.

[freebeard]

That's quite the website. They put this under Lifestyle?

Home/Life Style/The Grand Canyon lacks a billion years of geological history

And you read the article through a hole left in the advertisements, but (at this time in this location) they can't display the illustration above "(Image credit: Barra Peak)".

As far as I know. Nobody can point to what happened to the missing material.

Where it's not:

Valles Marineris: The Grand Canyon of Mars | Science ...
https://science.nasa.gov/valles-mari...nd-canyon-mars
The largest canyon in the Solar System cuts a wide swath across the face of Mars. Named Valles Marineris, the grand valley extends over 3,000 kilometers long, spans as much as 600 kilometers across, and delves as much as 8 kilometers deep. By comparison, the Earth's Grand Canyon in Arizona, USA is 800 kilometers long, 30 kilometers across, and 1.8 kilometers deep.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...06vmridges.jpg

That looks pretty odd for water erosion.

[Piotrsko]

Ever see a deep hole in Yuma? Mostly clayish sand with big round rocks. Sounds like Colorado river delta to me

[redneck]

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No, I’ve never visited Yuma or looked in a deep hole there. Lol

Maybe someday.

And I don’t doubt your claim of clays and boulders.

Studies I’ve read in the past say the delta doesn’t contain the volume and or the quantities of each type of stone that should be present.

If that’s right or wrong I don’t know. 🤷


On a side note.

I really would like to see the Big Ditch again. The first time was somewhere around 1970 or so and I didn’t fully grasp, understand or appreciate it back then.

I’m adding it to my bucket list.




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