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Old 09-01-2021, 01:41 PM   #371 (permalink)
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looks pretty odd

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That's quite the website. They put this under Lifestyle?



And you read the article through a hole left in the advertisements, but (at this time in this location) they can't display the illustration above "(Image credit: Barra Peak)".



Where it's not:



http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...06vmridges.jpg

That looks pretty odd for water erosion.
One flight from Dallas to Reno, or the other way around, will disabuse you of that notion.
here's the Grand Canyon
https://www.etsy.com/listing/7119200...yABEgIAqPD_BwE

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Old 09-01-2021, 01:55 PM   #372 (permalink)
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atmosphere

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How the atmosphere works for beginners, nasa and aerohead.

I like how Ben destroys nasas bs narrative about how "sun doesn't affect the atmosphere" with nasas own peer reviewed papers. It's like there's one or 2 people at nasa who have big mouths and cling to obsolete outdated debunked science and are trying to force their stunted scientific development on everyone else to prop up a failing religion.
* The context probably has to do with the limited portion of the atmosphere which actually impacts life on Earth.
* What happens above the troposphere has very little to do with us.
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lightning 'ditch'

Here's a lightning-produced terrestrial anomaly. Nothing's 'missing'. Moisture in the soil spontaneously flashes to steam, blasting the dirt away.
https://www.weatherthings.com/LightningTrench/
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That's an interesting effect. Similar but not identical to fulgurites.
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Fulgurites (from the Latin fulgur, meaning "lightning"), commonly known as "fossilized lightning", are natural tubes, clumps, or masses of sintered, vitrified, and/or fused soil, sand, rock, organic debris and other sediments that sometimes form when lightning discharges into ground.
The underground pipe theory is interesting but it seems unlikely it would lead directly to/from the tree.

This PDF https://arxiv.org/pdf/2108.13788.pdf is troublesome to quote, but page 3 has diagrams of interest
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Figure 1. Locations of 38 sites in the southern hemisphere along the boundary of the Antarctic
lithosphere plate (yellow circles with corresponding numbers) and magnetically conjugated sites in the
northern hemisphere (red circles with corresponding numbers) were calculated for geomagnetic
conditions of 2000.
Figure 2. Geomagnetic field lines connecting magnetically conjugated sites shown in Fig 1.
What I find interesting is that the Northern line runs down the Rocky Mountain range and then flips sideways across the bottom of the Caribbean, and then resumes at Newfoundland. Weird.
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geospace environment vs earthquakes

* Nowhere in the paper did they identify a clear mechanism ( coupling ) linking the magnetosphere and earthquakes.
* Nowhere did they illustrate the magnitude of any difference in magnetic flux within the crust or below it, as a function of space weather.
* Nowhere is a linkage between lithospheric, asthenospheric, upper mantle, or lower mantle magnetic flux and seismicity provided.
* Coincidence of space weather does not constitute causality.
* 90% of Earth's crust is oxygen.
* The crust is mostly silicate rock which isn't even magnetic or electrically conductive.
* Any presumption that the lithosphere would react uniformly in a variable magnetic flux would be highly dubious.
* For their density, and an average thickness of 420-miles, tectonic block segments of the crust would require unimaginable 'horsepower' to unlock fault asperities and allow displacement-induced earthquakes.
* The authors might want to provide magnetic properties and electrical conductivity of all crustal areas affected by the alleged space weather, earthquake anomalies, along with the strength of fields within the planet associated with those in space, and provide the mathematics which demonstrate the 'horsepower' required to move thousands of mountains simultaneously.
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* Nowhere in the paper did they identify a clear mechanism...
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* The authors might want to provide...
My search engine of choice is unhelpful, maybe someone else can fill in, but there was a high school National Science prize winner who demonstrated earthquake prediction maybe around 2017, which was followed by the launch of a Chinese satellite to observe the precursors.
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My search engine of choice is unhelpful, maybe someone else can fill in, but there was a high school National Science prize winner who demonstrated earthquake prediction maybe around 2017, which was followed by the launch of a Chinese satellite to observe the precursors.
The U.S. Geological Service's metric for an earthquake prediction requires:
* Date
* Time
* Place
* Magnitude
There is a National Earthquake Prediction Evaluation Council ( NEPEC ) in the USA, which advises the US Geological Survey, responsible for issuing predictions.
* There was an Mag- 7.0 earthquake which hit Spitak, Soviet Armenia, December 7, 1988 which killed 25,000.
* This main shock was preceded by a Mag- 3.0 foreshock the day before.
* Four minutes after the main shock, a Mag- 5.8 aftershock hit, and over the next year, experienced 259-more aftershocks.
* Prediction could be a messy business.
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Behold:


https://quakewatch.net/

Seismicity, delta-class anomalies (sunspots) and atmospheric pressure cells.
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QUAKEWATCH

[QUOTE=freebeard;655115]Behold:


https://quakewatch.net/

Seismicity, delta-class anomalies (sunspots) and atmospheric pressure cells.[/QUOTE
In order for them to get credit, they would have had to specify the local time of day ( hour and minute ) and specific location ( longitude, latitude, of a specific spatial resolution [ maybe an arc second ]).
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If you get too specific, then you can be sued jailed if you fail to predict one. At least under Italian law.
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Scientists jailed for manslaughter for not predicting ...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-cleared.html
Scientists jailed for manslaughter because they did not predict deadly earthquake in Italy which killed 309 people have been cleared Town of L'Aquila was struck by quake, which measured 6.3 on ...

Italian scientists convicted for not warning about deadly ...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/italian...ly-2009-quake/
Updated at 4:25 p.m. ET. L'AQUILA, Italy Defying assertions that earthquakes cannot be predicted, an Italian court convicted seven scientists and experts of manslaughter Monday for failing to ...

L'Aquila quake: Italy scientists guilty of manslaughter ...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-20025626
L'Aquila quake: Italy scientists guilty of manslaughter. Six Italian scientists and an ex-government official have been sentenced to six years in prison over the 2009 deadly earthquake in L'Aquila ...
That's why it says Informational Only, Not for Official Action

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