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What bothers me is while they are rambling on they keep re-running stock footage that may be marginally connected to the subject. Some work better as an audio stream.... at 1.5X.
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Seems to be a trend on educational channels, only paying for 1/4 of the illustrations and reusing them until the watcher goes catatonic.
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11-05-2021, 03:50 PM
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Last night on Dallas' WFAA, Disney-TEGNA-ABC 5:00-o'clock news, they had a new segment about climate myths and facts.
A viewer had asked if sunspots were responsible for climate change. ABC contacted NASA. NASA said that sunspots have had nothing to do with climate change for 40-years.
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11-05-2021, 04:49 PM
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Not sure if that's NASA's area of expertise, but I have been out of the business since Y2k
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NASA said that sunspots have had nothing to do with climate change for 40-years.
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NASA is technically true, the best kind of true:
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Sunspots and Solar Flares | NASA Space Place - NASA ...
https://spaceplace.nasa.gov › solar-activity › en
Sunspots are areas that appear dark on the surface of the Sun. They appear dark because they are cooler than other parts of the Sun's surface. Solar flares are a sudden explosion of energy caused by tangling, crossing or reorganizing of magnetic field lines near sunspots. The surface of the Sun is a very busy place.
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NASA expertise
Nice to see them acknowledge Alfvén waves.
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11-06-2021, 06:14 AM
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Only when you are dumb enough to just look at solar irradiance, which decreases during high solar activity.
Then voila no warning during solar maximum.
Just like the nih didn't pay for gain of function research.
Make the definition fit the narrative.
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11-08-2021, 01:42 PM
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Only when you are dumb enough to just look at solar irradiance, which decreases during high solar activity.
Then voila no warning during solar maximum.
Just like the nih didn't pay for gain of function research.
Make the definition fit the narrative.
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* Solar irradiance would be the ultraviolet radiation which enters the troposphere, strikes the Earth, converts to long-wave infrared radiation, which can no longer radiate back into space as before the Industrial Revolution, due to the 'blanket' of infrared-trapping greenhouse gases which have concentrated in the troposphere.
* The last seven years are the warmest ever recorded.
* None of the other planets in the Solar System have warmed.
* Not even the Moon has warmed, even though it's at exactly the same distance from the Sun as Earth.
* All share the same star.
* Does anyone have an explanation which would explain these observational measurements?
* And how could Venus be warmer than Mercury, even though Mercury is closest to the Sun?
* Help me out here!
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* Solar irradiance would be the ultraviolet radiation which enters the troposphere, strikes the Earth, converts to long-wave infrared radiation, which can no longer radiate back into space as before the Industrial Revolution, due to the 'blanket' of infrared-trapping greenhouse gases which have concentrated in the troposphere.
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https://www.nasa.gov › mission_pages › sdo › science › solar-irradiance.html
The solar irradiance is the output of light energy from the entire disk of the Sun, measured at the Earth. It is looking at the Sun as we would a star rather than as a image. The solar spectral irradiance is a measure of the brightness of the entire Sun at a wavelength of light. Important spectral irradiance variations are seen in many ...
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* The last seven years are the warmest ever recorded. Ever is a long time. * None of the other planets in the Solar System have warmed.
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Other planets are warming "[E]vidence that CO2 is not the principle driver of warming on this planet is provided by the simultaneous warming of other planets and moons in our solar system, despite the fact that they obviously have no anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gas es.. Mars, Triton, Pluto and Jupiter all show global warming, pointing to the Sun as the dominating influence in ...
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* Not even the Moon has warmed, even though it's at exactly the same distance from the Sun as Earth. No greenhouse gases * All share the same star. Stellar anomalies are approaching our location from the Galactic center. * Does anyone have an explanation which would explain these observational measurements? Space Weather * And how could Venus be warmer than Mercury, even though Mercury is closest to the Sun? Greenhouse gases * Help me out here! We try.
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I don't recognize them as a reputable source for scientific data. Next!
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* Solar irradiance would be the ultraviolet radiation which enters the troposphere, strikes the Earth, converts to long-wave infrared radiation, which can no longer radiate back into space as before the Industrial Revolution, due to the 'blanket' of infrared-trapping greenhouse gases which have concentrated in the troposphere.
* The last seven years are the warmest ever recorded. Ever is a long time. * None of the other planets in the Solar System have warmed.* Not even the Moon has warmed, even though it's at exactly the same distance from the Sun as Earth. No greenhouse gases * All share the same star. Stellar anomalies are approaching our location from the Galactic center. * Does anyone have an explanation which would explain these observational measurements? Space Weather * And how could Venus be warmer than Mercury, even though Mercury is closest to the Sun? Greenhouse gases * Help me out here! We try.
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* 'ever recorded' means just that. If it was ever warmer than right now, there was no instrumented recording of it, and evidence would only exist as proxy data.
* According to NASA, the only celestial body warming is Triton, and that's because of it's albedo. This moon's surface is darkening from volcanic fallout, and it's absorbing more solar radiation, like the Arctic and Antarctic as the ice melts away.
* Mars' Martian-annual global average surface temperature is not warming any further than celestial mechanics ( astronomical forcing ) would account for, as far as NASA reports. It would experience diurnal heating and cooling. It's atmosphere is 100% greenhouse gases.
* If Earth were warming from non-greenhouse gas mechanisms, so to would the Moon's lunar annual year. It is not.
* I think you mentioned Jupiter, NASA reports no changes.
* Steller anomalies are not coupled to the troposphere. Space weather is not germane to climate change.
I was going to address NASA's comment, but all that's vanished here.
Bear in mind that the Sun has many types of variable-photon activity, which has nothing to do with climate, like infrared, radio, and x-ray. They can vary 'til the cows come home and it means absolutely nothing with respect to climate.
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