Cosmic Catastrophe

[freebeard]

* 'ever recorded' means just that.

tree rings are proxy data?

I don't recognize them as a reputable source for scientific data. Next!

DDG do. If I cared more I could compare the results at Yahoo or Webcrawler. Not Google though.

[oil pan 4]

So we'll just pretend like the little ice age and the grand solar minimum didn't happen.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

tree rings are proxy data?



DDG do. If I cared more I could compare the results at Yahoo or Webcrawler. Not Google though.

* Yes, dendrochronology is part of the mix.
* paleodendrochronology
* Isotopic sediment statigraphy.
* Isotopic ice core statigraphy.
* Isotopic coral statigraphy.
* Isotopic stalagtite statigraphy.
* Teeth.
* Rocks.
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I've been interrogating the Caltech/JPL and NASA Goddard Institute for Space Science websites for years, and have never seen any solar attribution associated with solar system warming. There's around thirty universities in the USA which routinely monitor solar activity, and report no causal relationship as well.
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Can you provide one (1), peer-reviewed conclusion from a 'non-commercial' scientific journal at the heart of these claims?
The existence of a website is no indication or proof of its mastery of topic, and perhaps it's often to the contrary, especially when money is involved.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

So we'll just pretend like the little ice age and the grand solar minimum didn't happen.

1) The Mediaval Maximum of the 12th-Century is attributed with a zero-point-five percent solar variability ( Delta B / B = 0.5% )
2) There is no single solar insolation threshold separating interglacials from interstadials throughout the Quartenary.
3) The 1645-1715 Maunder Minimum ( near absence of sunspots ) is attributed with a 0.14% ( delta B / B = 0.14% ) decrease in irradiance ( sunspots do not control irradiance ).
4) The 'Little Ice Age' was not a 'global' event, but rather a 'regional' event. Other areas of Earth experienced no change to their climate during this episode.
5) Mean average eleven-year solar irradiance variability is delta 0.08%.

[freebeard]

Can you provide one (1), peer-reviewed conclusion from a 'non-commercial' scientific journal at the heart of these claims?

Can you provide a list of 'non-commercial' scientific journals to compare against?

[freebeard]

Can we discuss the IPCC?

Sun Controls Climate | Part 2 - Major Cycles

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Can you provide a list of 'non-commercial' scientific journals to compare against?

If you can a wait a year or so for me to find the single article, out of thousands, which addressed the issue.
Some technical librarian had compiled a list of 'pay-to-publish' journals that would publish 'anything' for a price, and published it online.
There was no peer-review, even when it was claimed.
SCIENCE or NATURE published an article about a sting operation which had been conducted, in which intentionally-bogus, and obviously specious ( to a specialist ) papers were submitted for publication , and accepted, as long as the money was paid.
Researchers were desperate to publish, whether their science was 'scientific' or not, to the point of publishing at the sham publications, at their own cost, just to get their name in print.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Can we discuss the IPCC?

We can discuss the IPCC, although it's a distraction from the real science, and I won't devote any time to it.
And before I look at your S-O video, notice the legalese manipulation in it's title, using 'climate', where the issue of interest is 'climate change', unspecified, leaving ambiguity whether intentionally or by default.
I'd sure like to see Ben Davidson and his wife's tax return. Traveling the USA @ 6-miles per gallon would cost a small fortune for someone with no visible means of support.
And with only a Celestron C-8 , a hydrogen-alpha filter, and a cheap tripod, he sure comes up with some expensive looking graphics and editing.

[oil pan 4]

Still attacking the source how juvenile.
You can tell he didn't watch the video, which is typical or he just refuses to accept that the ipccc is being forced to accept the sun and solar forcing as driving factors for major climate cycles.
Typically aerohead fashion would be to ignore anything he doesn't agree with.

[aerohead]

1) cherry-picked while surfing the web.
2) anything which might be associated with space-weather belief system embraced.
3) contextual data offered without context.
4) weasel-worded.
5) sources discussing 'regional' rather than 'global' observations.
6) Citing 'forcings' not recognized anywhere else within the scientific community as 'forcings' ( no coupling or mechanisms provided )
6) no corroboration from disinterested 3rd-party researchers.
7) Data presented without qualifications ( near surface temperatures ) known to be obsolete or incomplete.
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Hard to prove criminal intent ( and he knows this). Outcome's just the same.
Shame shame!
I now support government intrusion into the internet.
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