Cosmic Catastrophe

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Still attacking the source how juvenile.
You can tell he didn't watch the video, which is typical or he just refuses to accept that the ipccc is being forced to accept the sun and solar forcing as driving factors for major climate cycles.
Typically aerohead fashion would be to ignore anything he doesn't agree with.

1) perhaps you misread my quotation, where I expressly explained that I had NOT yet watched the video.
2) as I said, in the video title, there's no mention of 'climate change.'
3) the IPCC is fully aware that the Sun has nothing to do with climate change, other than it's contribution, as initially and continually factored into the general circulation models.
4) 'major climate cycles' has nothing to do with Earth since 1840.
I've been very lenient with your loose tongue. If you can't learn civil discourse I'm going to report you. Do you understand? I'm at the zero-tolerance level.

[oil pan 4]

Youtube is cracking down on so called "denier content" and the rules are pretty vague. That's probably why the video title doesn't say "climate change" in the title because youtube already has suspicious observer pegged as a denyer platform.
You are catastrophicallyout of date on the ipcc. If you would have watched the video......
You lecture me on civil discourse after you don't watch the video and attack the source in a juvenile manor? Ha.

Oh so climate change only started after 1840, that's laughable.

[freebeard]

If you can a wait a year or so for me to find the single article, out of thousands, which addressed the issue.

The question was more general: Is there a master list I can compare sources against.

I now support government intrusion into the internet.

The tighter they squeeze, the more slips through. Can't stop the signal.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Youtube is cracking down on so called "denier content" and the rules are pretty vague. That's probably why the video title doesn't say "climate change" in the title because youtube already has suspicious observer pegged as a denyer platform.
You are catastrophicallyout of date on the ipcc. If you would have watched the video......
You lecture me on civil discourse after you don't watch the video and attack the source in a juvenile manor? Ha.

Oh so climate change only started after 1840, that's laughable.

1) I threw a caution flag on the play, based on the ambiguous video title. I wanted freebeard, to understand ahead of time, that this is a bonafide issue with S-O.
2) Then I watched the video in its entirety. So now I'm up to date?
3) And then I posted about that with specificity, as to the content, which in no way altered my conclusion about solar climate forcing.
4) You belittle me before the fact.
5) Any discounting of the video content is well-earned. There is no content. Just obfuscation. It ought to be rebutted.
6) 'Climate change', as is currently referred to, is only germane to what's transpired since 1840, at the dawn of the Industrial Revolution. Britain had already cut down and burned most of its forests. Their timber-crisis led to the invention of Newcomen's walking beam, to pump the coal mines dry enough to get the coal to make brick, since there was no more lumber to build with.
7) Britain's Royal Charters in the New World had as much to do with burning down America to produce consumer products for England and its Royal Navy, as it did for oft-mentioned religious freedom in the British Colonies.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

The question was more general: Is there a master list I can compare sources against.



The tighter they squeeze, the more slips through. Can't stop the signal.

They can, and have a history of doing so. And will do again if pressed to do so.
Freedom of speech in the USA is not unlimited. It never was.
Check out the vigilante 'slacker raids' under the Sedition Act era.

[freebeard]

For the lurkers who might confuse easily: ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/publish-fake-science-fee-39820.html

"'slacker raids' under the Sedition Act" doesn't find anything about slacker raids [on DDG's first page anyways]. Closest match seems to be Eugene V. Debbs and somebody in Malaysia.

Freedom of Speech is not unlimited but it is protected. By the following Amendment. OTOH, Free and Open Source software moots the whole point. Internet runs on Apache servers.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

For the lurkers who might confuse easily: ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/publish-fake-science-fee-39820.html

"'slacker raids' under the Sedition Act" doesn't find anything about slacker raids [on DDG's first page anyways]. Closest match seems to be Eugene V. Debbs and somebody in Malaysia.

Freedom of Speech is not unlimited but it is protected. By the following Amendment. OTOH, Free and Open Source software moots the whole point. Internet runs on Apache servers.

PBS Television may be the solitary source for the historic information. It made it's way across my TV as I was drawing one day.
The mention of the WW-I era 'Slacker Raids' may have been mentioned on their program about the 1921, 'Black Wall Street', Tulsa, Oklahoma race massacre of the African-American community.
It could have also been on PBS' program about the US Army attacking WW-I veterans of the 'Bonus Army', protesting in Washington, DC in 1932.
( Caesar crossed the Rubicon )

[aerohead]

It would be very instructive if, S-O would clarify our lunar neighbor's relationship with space weather.
1) As mentioned before, the Moon is the same distance from the Sun as Earth.
2) The Moon is exposed to exactly the same space weather as Earth.
3) The Moon is actually exposed to 'more' space weather than Earth, due to it's lack of any atmosphere or magnetosphere.
4) Earth has a diurnal-averaged ( positive ) + 59.9-degrees F.
5) The MOON has a diurnal-averaged ( negative ) - 100-degrees F.
6) What would be the explanation for the different average temperatures between the two? ( other than the regolith dust disturbed by walking or by rovers, exposing darker soil and increasing solar heating in the area of temperature sensors )

[freebeard]

3) The Moon is actually exposed to 'more' space weather than Earth, due to it's lack of any atmosphere or magnetosphere.
...Step Two...
6) What would be the explanation for the different average temperatures between the two?

One of those things is not like the other. The only thing I can recall offhand is that they watch trends in the brightness of the full Moon to acssess the Earth's albedo.

PBS Television ... program about the 1921, 'Black Wall Street', Tulsa, Oklahoma race massacre of the African-American community.
... PBS' program about the US Army attacking WW-I veterans of the 'Bonus Army', protesting in Washington, DC in 1932.

Did they do anything on the Battle of Athens?

The Battle of Athens (sometimes called the McMinn County War) was a rebellion led by citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the local government in August 1946. The citizens, including some World War II veterans, accused the local officials of predatory policing, police brutality, political corruption, and voter intimidation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)

Most relevant today.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

One of those things is not like the other. The only thing I can recall offhand is that they watch trends in the brightness of the full Moon to acssess the Earth's albedo.



Did they do anything on the Battle of Athens?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)

Most relevant today.

* Text I want to address is disappearing when I try and use your words to respond.
* I think that it was 6). And I'd like S-O to explain the differences in mean average temps.
* All I could find from NASA, with regards to a warming Moon had to do with only local measurements, right where Apollo astronauts tramped or drove the lunar rovers.
* Other than that, for instrumented history, the Moon has not warmed, while the Earth has.
* Space weather, as causation would seem very dubious , as no effects are measured for the Moon, while measured on Earth under identical circumstances.
* The Moon should demonstrate warmer high temperatures, warmer low temperatures, and warmer average temperatures.
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Haven't heard of the Athens incident.