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Old 01-07-2022, 02:08 PM   #561 (permalink)
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No. I'm addicted to newness. It may be just as bad. S0 says we're in a Cosmic Ray Health Alert
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and find the last day on the sun in 193
angstroms glimmeringly calm we've got no
major events from the sun so it's not
shocking we have them from cosmic rays
low solar activity allows galactic
cosmic rays to surge and this is the
most published and most severe space
weather health impactor cardiac
autoimmune and psychological patients

are on alert with high risk of cognitive
and emotional instability for everyone
and those bit flip computer glitches as
well
high cosmic rays also take down our
immune system's attic and that also
applies to everyone

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Old 01-10-2022, 11:47 AM   #562 (permalink)
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Cosmic Ray Health Alert

1) The solar wind moves at approximately 1,000,000 miles and hour.
2) Earth is 93-million miles from the Sun.
3) It takes the solar wind 93-hours to reach Earth.
4) The Heliopause, where comic 'rays' are arrested, is 100- Astronomical Units away from Earth.
5) It takes 9,300-hours for the solar wind to travel from the Sun to the Heliopause.
6) If something changes on the Sun this moment, it will be over 387-days from right now, before the change registers at the Heliopause.
7) Whatever cosmic 'rays' are doing right now, won't change for 1-year and 22-days.
8) And all cosmic 'rays' are not created equal. Some specificity would help us understand exactly what S-O is so concerned about.
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1)-6) Questionable relevance.

7) Flat wrong.

8) Wikipedia only considers low Earth orbit and above.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_threat_from_cosmic_rays#Central_nervous_sys tem
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A review of CNS space radiobiology by Cucinotta, Alp, Sulzman, and Wang (Life Sciences in Space Research, 2014) summarizes research studies in small animals of changes to cognition and memory, neuro-inflammation, neuron morphology, and impaired neurogenesis in the hippocampus. Studies using simulated space radiation in small animals suggest temporary or long-term cognitive detriments could occur during a long-term space mission. Changes to neuron morphology in mouse hippocampus and pre-frontal cortex occur for heavy ions at low doses (<0.3 Gy). Studies in mice and rats of chronic neuro-inflammation and behavioral changes show variable results at low doses (~0.1 Gy or lower).
But the Earth's shield is weakening. The relevant factor is the Kp index:

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The K-index, and by extension the Planetary K-index, are used to characterize the magnitude of geomagnetic storms. Kp is an excellent indicator of disturbances in the Earth's magnetic field and is used by SWPC to decide whether geomagnetic alerts and warnings need to be issued for users who are affected by these disturbances.
Looking around for a non-S0 reference I find www.scirp.org: Space and Human Consciousness: The Great Whisper
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This original review is a call for holistic perception of human consciousness incorporating the ancient wisdom of the human civilizations with the massive current era advances in different disciplines of applied sciences. The description of René Descartes in the 17th century of the Cartesian dualism is timely to revisit with new holistic perspective, in view of the major advances of our understanding of heart brain communications, astrophysical resonances with human heart ascending afferents to central nervous system, and signaling between humans and the space. Universal vibrations, frequencies and resonances as perceived by Nikola Tesla constitute the core of our new conceptual and experimental perspective on human consciousness.
You might question the source (Abdullah A. Alabdulgader -- Senior Congenital Cardiologist, Invasive Electrophysiologist and Cardiac Astrophysicist, Prince Sultan Cardiac Center (Founder & Chief Physician), Al-Hofuf, Saudi Arabia) but I suspect that Bedouins will be the ones that colonize Mars.
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1)-6) Questionable relevance.

7) Flat wrong.

8) Wikipedia only considers low Earth orbit and above.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_threat_from_cosmic_rays#Central_nervous_sys tem

But the Earth's shield is weakening. The relevant factor is the Kp index:



Looking around for a non-S0 reference I find www.scirp.org: Space and Human Consciousness: The Great Whisper


You might question the source (Abdullah A. Alabdulgader -- Senior Congenital Cardiologist, Invasive Electrophysiologist and Cardiac Astrophysicist, Prince Sultan Cardiac Center (Founder & Chief Physician), Al-Hofuf, Saudi Arabia) but I suspect that Bedouins will be the ones that colonize Mars.
1-6) if there's a change in the Sun, right now, it's affect on cosmic particles reaching Earth will come in 1-year, 22-days. By definition!
7) according to mathematics, the change will show up in 1-year, 22-days.
8) We live on the planet's surface, not in space. Cosmic particle protection for Earth begins 9,300-million miles from Earth.
( Earth's shield ) perhaps look up who it is that will receive the alerts. It won't be me.
( Rene Descartes ) Have you actually read him? You've mentioned that you cannot read books. I had nothing to learn from his writing, other than his cartesian coordinate system I use for graphs.
Descartes rejected the theory of empty space in 1618. He believed that animals were automata. The soul was unique to 'rational' human beings. A story about him puts him aboard ship, caught in a storm. The ship's captain discovers a mechanical woman in Descartes' quarters, and throws it overboard, believing 'she' is possessed by the devil. Isaac Newton asked if Descartes hadn't offered a pathway to atheism.
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Not precisely a catastrophe, but it has a lot of worthwhile stuff like cosmic radiation, solar flares, the Van Allen belts, the delivery of the first US satellite to its launch base, the moon...
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The Heliopause is lopsided and the solar wind slows down as it expands.
Average solar wind speed is around 900,000mph on sun spotless days and about 1.7 million miles per hour during solar maximum. Even then solar wind still likely takes years to reach the far side of the Heliopause.
A million miles per hour only works as an over simplified underestimated version of the sun as if the sun is always in solar minimum, even then it's wrong.
The Heliopause is believed to shrink during the solar minimum. Probably shrank a lot during the grand solar minimum. As the probes left during solar maximum peaks.
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The Heliopause is lopsided and the solar wind slows down as it expands.
Average solar wind speed is around 900,000mph on sun spotless days and about 1.7 million miles per hour during solar maximum. Even then solar wind still likely takes years to reach the far side of the Heliopause.
A million miles per hour only works as an over simplified underestimated version of the sun as if the sun is always in solar minimum, even then it's wrong.
The Heliopause is believed to shrink during the solar minimum. Probably shrank a lot during the grand solar minimum. As the probes left during solar maximum peaks.
1) The simplistic, spherical model of the Heliopause has an average diameter of 18,600-million miles.
2) To say that it's lop-sided implies that some instrument has captured a 'snapshot' of it.
3) What space probe is out there that, can simultaneously image the entire surface of an object that's 18,600-million miles in diameter, from which it's topography may be examined, exhibiting the asymmetry?
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4) Has the 'belief' that the heliosphere 'shrinks' been tested and proven to be true?
5) 'Probability' of shrinking implies that statistical analysis of Heliospheric data observed. That would have been published.
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1-6) if there's a change in the Sun, right now, it's affect on cosmic particles reaching Earth will come in 1-year, 22-days. By definition!
7) according to mathematics, the change will show up in 1-year, 22-days.
I know it's hard to keep up. duckduckgo.com/?q=magnetic+portals+connect+earth+to+sun

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8) We live on the planet's surface, not in space. Cosmic particle protection for Earth begins 9,300-million miles from Earth.
Bucky Fuller died in vain. And don't get me started on Descartes. The XYZ coordinate system blinds people to the geometry that Universe uses --Synergetics.
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Gross over simplification oh and the distance you quoted is what was observed by voyager 1 and 2 congrats on using an actual observation for once. But you still screwed it up. That's not the average, not even close, voyagers went through what scientists were pretty sure was going to be the thinnest spot trying to get into that interstellar medium before the nuclear battery dies. The Heliopause is very lopsided it's at least double the distance on the down stream side.
Just face it, you're wrong don't try to back peddle you ain't turning this one around.
The scientists used your favorite thing to determine it's lopsided. Simulations and hypothesis.
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