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Old 03-02-2023, 11:00 AM   #941 (permalink)
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Yes you can predict potential timing events. Where and how do you predict an actual event with any accuracy using such data?

All the major fault lines on the left coast are supposedly over due. Which next celestial event is going to set one of them off?

I'll use an old astrological saying: The stars compell, they do not command.

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Old 03-02-2023, 11:53 AM   #942 (permalink)
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Earthquakes aren't as predictable as human stupidity:
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L'AQUILA, Italy Defying assertions that earthquakes cannot be predicted, an Italian court convicted seven scientists and experts of manslaughter Monday for failing to adequately warn...
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Earthquakes aren't as predictable as human stupidity:
Nothing I like more than seeing politicians and government authorities that have no expertise in anything except reputation management weigh in on complex topics, or even simple ones, while ignoring the very basics of a discipline, like supply/demand for instance.

Lets find the most manipulative people society can produce, surrender our liberty in their quest for power, and then trust these idiots to solve all our problems.
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Space & earthquakes

The formulas for the celestial mechanics are available.
The physical criteria are available.
The Moon having the greatest outside impact on seismicity is an established fact.
The Sun, having the second strongest effect is an established fact.
Jupiter having less than one- ten-millionth the gravitational effect on Earth is an established fact.
Jupiter having less than one-ten-millionth the magnetic field strength of the Sun is an established fact.
As of 2018, scientists had the capacity to solve 'N-Body problems', dealing with 1-billion celestial bodies simultaneously. An analysis much superior to simple planetary alignments.
Any attribution concerning 'Space' effects and seismic activity on Earth is an invocation which isn't forbidden in a free society, however, it may not be necessary, given 'conventional' Earth dynamics which already seem adequate in explaining earthquake occurrences.
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Still want to see them accurately use that data to predict an occurance before it happens.
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Old 03-06-2023, 11:56 AM   #946 (permalink)
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'space weather and earthquakes'

https://blogs.nasa.gov/Watch_the_Skies/tag/conjunction/The US Geological Survey maintains a database for all earthquake occurrences.
NASA maintains a database for all planetary conjunctions.
Anyone interested may compare the two, side-by-side, to see if any coincide, then investigate the actual time of day, and latitude/longitude of earthquakes, compared to the celestial position in the sky, of the planets, and whether or not, their combined gravitational pull happened to be normal to the epicenter of each qualifying event.https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthqua...ignificant.php
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'Jupiter's magnetic field and earthquakes on Earth'

1) Jupiter's magnetic field strength is the most powerful of all the planets in our solar system.
2) It's strength, at the cloud tops is 1/20th that of a refrigerator magnet.
3) Jupiter's magnetosphere extends towards the Sun, into the solar wind, out to 4,347,000-miles.
4) Jupiter is 390,840,000-miles from Earth
5) The impact of Jupiter's magnetic field does not come within 386,593,000-miles of Earth.
6) On the face of it, the attribution of Jupiter's 'magnetic connection' to any seismic activity on Earth appears extremely dubious.
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'Space weather and Earth 'seismicity''

The following may explain the cognitive dissonance surrounding the 'so-called' space weather / Earth earthquake connection.'
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1) Seismometers contain ferrous metal components.
2) Ferrous metal components are sensitive to magnetic fields.
3) Electromagnetic shielding of seismometers is very expensive.
4) Near-polar, un-shielded seismometers, as in 'ALL' of the 'Alaskan-193, Transportable Array ( TA ) are susceptible to space-weather-induced Geomagnetically Induced Current ( GIC ) electromagnetic interference, deflecting like compass needles, and introducing 'noise' into the seismographic recordings.
5) The USGS maintains a network of 'All-Sky' cameras, which monitor auroras, and magnetometers used to remove the 'noise; from seismometers.
6) The seismologists get 'clean' earthquake data.
7) And space physicists get 'free' space weather data, by default.
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The takeaway is that, space weather doesn't affect seismicity.
Seismometers 'MAY' record 'shaking' where NONE is occurring.
Magnetically-shielded seismometers, right beside their 'cheap' un-shielded neighbors, indicate 'ZERO' shaking, and zero effects from solar storms.
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The phenomena has been understood since February 2, 2019, when the Black Forest Observatory, Schiltach, Germany recorded a magnetic storm on their seismometer.
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The US Geological Survey maintains a database for all earthquake occurrences.
NASA maintains a database for all planetary conjunctions.
Anyone interested may compare the two
Sounds more like @dutchsinse/videos than @Suspicious0bservers/videos.

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That's not 40 years behind the times.
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'Salih Muhammed Awadh'

The tip-off is in the first sentence.
' hypothesize'
People are curious, and scientists need to consider all mechanisms which might explain some phenomena.
It doesn't mean that any causality has been established.
History is full of 'hypotheses' which turned out to establish no causation in connection to their field of study.
They are a way to get Ph.D. though.
As long as one can logically argue their premises in front of a jury, it demonstrates capabilities the post-docs are seeking, whether 'right' or 'wrong,' it doesn't matter.

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