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Old 08-06-2015, 12:44 AM   #1121 (permalink)
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Would anybody still hold the breath for a government funding to Elio?
I wouldn't. But if it happens, that doesn't bode well and would probably end up as just
another boondoggle like the $$$$ to Solindra, the shrimp on a treadmill fiasco at
College of Charleston in South Carolina, tax breaks for hookers in Nevada who get boob
jobs all of those other "green energy" companies gone belly up, General Motors bail out
(take over) fiasco, bridges to nowhere etc, etc, etc ... Yessir, your US tax dollars at work.

So it is possible that ALL of us might be "investors" by government coercion after the
fact if he manages to convince govt. hacks into the scheme and they give him the $$$$
and then Elio goes nipples up. If it all does transpire, then you heard it here first before
the first dollar was even printed to spend on it.

Yep, that's the level of cynicism I'm at.

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Old 08-06-2015, 04:23 AM   #1122 (permalink)
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If it all does transpire, then you heard it here first before
the first dollar was even printed to spend on it.
That's so old school. They can push a button and make any arbitrary number of dollars directly out of electrons.

..well, technically, the holes where electrons aren't.
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Old 08-06-2015, 08:13 AM   #1123 (permalink)
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I've seen a lot of advertizing, wonder how much of the 25 mil is still in their (Elio's) bank.

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Old 08-06-2015, 08:21 AM   #1124 (permalink)
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(Elio's) the company, or (Elio's) the man?
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Is there a difference?

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Old 08-06-2015, 10:31 AM   #1126 (permalink)
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Yes- one way might result in a good product. The other way just lets one guy live large without doing anything.
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For all we know Mr. Elio fights daily for the public's right to buy a $7K tricycle, but is constantly thwarted by endless obstacles thrown up by dark or invisible forces.

There, I thwacked that dead horse again.
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For all we know Mr. Elio fights daily for the public's right to buy a $7K tricycle, but is constantly thwarted by endless obstacles thrown up by dark or invisible forces.

There, I thwacked that dead horse again.
Neigh.
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Old 08-12-2015, 09:02 AM   #1129 (permalink)
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Funny how the electric car thread points back to here.

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Tesla makes their own cars...they do not convert gas cars.
But they did to get their foot in the door. Google "Tesla Roadster"...
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But the Roadster wasn't a conversion - that is, it didn't take an existing IC-engined car, rip out the motor, and install EV parts. They just chose to have Lotus build a body & chassis based on, but not identical to, the Elise.
To aid initial development and greatly simplify getting safety approval, they used a platform for an ICE car, modified it as needed, and added electrical bits...

It saves tremendously on R&D costs which is a huge hurdle for a new automotive manufacturer. But it's a far cry from designing an electric car from the ground up like they did with the Model S. Even with Musk's prodigious capital, I don't think Tesla could have started out with the Model S and been successful.
Turning an industry upside down is like throwing someone. It's a lot easier to accomplish if you use his own momentum against him instead of standing in the middle of the street drunkenly yelling that you're going to kick his ass.
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So which is Elio?

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