The guys over at eco-modder are crazy

[MetroMPG]

Matt: that's a great anecdote.

Christ: that's basically the back story of why GasSavers got started - a couple of people on an otherwise performance-oriented site where talking about fuel economy just wouldn't have worked out for a number of reasons.

[UfoTofU]

Keep up the good work

[1337]

Originally Posted by Christ

I have my mileage tag in my sig on other forums where it doesn't violate the TOS for them... people often ask about it in PM, to save face. (Several of them are performance oriented, and talk of "fuel mileage" just won't be tolerated publicly.)

Haha. When I introduced myself at clubprotege.com, they sort of ganged up on me and criticized me for caring about MPG. When I mentioned my grill block, a clubprotege member told me that he cuts out _extra_ holes in his front end to maximize cooling. I'm not personally offended; I just think it's funny.

I don't mind if people improve the performance of their cars, but the Protege is a friggin economy car. Getting good fuel economy and being cheap to own is a primary focus of the economy car class. If you want a sports car, buy a Miata.

[Christ]

Originally Posted by 1337

Haha. When I introduced myself at clubprotege.com, they sort of ganged up on me and criticized me for caring about MPG. When I mentioned my grill block, a clubprotege member told me that he cuts out _extra_ holes in his front end to maximize cooling. I'm not personally offended; I just think it's funny.

I don't mind if people improve the performance of their cars, but the Protege is a friggin economy car. Getting good fuel economy and being cheap to own is a primary focus of the economy car class. If you want a sports car, buy a Miata.

The Protege isn't actually an economy car anywhere but America... In Japan, it's still too large and fast to be considered an econo-box. The car comes with a BP-series 1.8 turbo engine in Japan.

The Ford Escort was pretty much only an economy car in America too...

[Formula413]

I thought this would be sort of on topic here. I was brought to Ecomodder when someone posted a link to Basjoos' build thread in the lounge at LS1Tech.com, which is a late model GM muscle car site. The overall response of most people viewing the thread was not so friendly of course. I on the other hand took a look around and quickly decided to sign up. Here's a link to the thread on LS1Tech (put your flame suits on)

Maybe ricers just want better gas mileage? (Body guys stay out) - LS1TECH

I noticed that one guy in the thread actually seems to know what he's talking about. He even knew what a Kammback is.

[Blue07CivicEX]

<rant>I have to laugh at all the comments from the morons on that site that don't know a damn thing. "I drive fast, I don't care if it costs me $80/tank to fill up vroom vrooooom", guys like that are what makes me wish gas had stayed high. I like going fast too, I used to own a cadillac with a beastly v8, but I got tired of spending upwards of $60/tank back when katrina hit, my civic is still plenty quick but gets better then twice the mileage of the caddie.

I fully intend to own a vette from the 60's at some point, but it won't be a daily driver. Gah, I hate ignorance.

</rant>

[Arminius]

Those who want speed and those who want economy should both be concerned about improved aerodynamics. At least there's some common ground to stand on.

[ShadeTreeMech]

I grew up into good fuel economy thanks to a little 83 nissan sentra. I would reset the tripometer when I refueled, mainly out of curiosity. I also always filled up ("the top half of the tank is just as easy to keep full as the bottom half" my dad would say)

Anyways, that car had *COLD* ac, power steering, and was comfortable, and it had a 5 speed. So when I noticed I got exactly 100 miles per quarter tank, it became facinating. The empty mark was actually at the 1/8 tank position, so at 350 miles, it would read empty. I was so excited on one day when I was easy on the gas for a while, and I hit 400 miles and still had gas left. Always trying for those couple extra miles on the 1/4 tank mark was my education. And this was when gas was $1.29!

Blame my Scottish ancestry, but saving a buck when there's no reason not to is imbedded in me.

[brucey]

I'm figure everyone here is pretty cheap at least in some form or another. :P

Why waste your money on everything when you can cheap out on everything but what you love?

[redyaris]

This is a high performance site, the standard by which it is messured is mpg... Not HP or seconds or mph. mpg is the more difficult standard to meet, You can't just buy it and bolt it on, you have to design it and build it your self with a bit of help form your friends at EM. I used to think that expensive sports cars where example of great design but now I think they are what you get if money spent is not considered, now my attitude is show me what you can do for $15000 and make it get 50mpg doing it. Now that would be an accumplishement!