Has anyone [in the U.S.] received your stimulus check? How are you going to spend it?

[freebeard]

Agriculture is older. (ca. 11500a)

That would be when agriculture was reinstantiated following the Younger Dryas. The Antideluvians (Sphinx, Gobleki Tepi, the Elorra Caves) weren't hunter-gatherers.

[Fat Charlie]

We build bridges and aircraft carriers as a group. I'm also okay with us having a safety net that doesn't depend on who you know or what church happens to be in your town.

[redpoint5]

Just curious, if nobody cares to keep a person alive, why should the government? The government represents the collective's will.

Regarding mental health issues; the state needs to do much better creating a space to care for crazies. Expecting people to live on the streets with mental issues is cruel to both the individual and to the public.

Regarding drugs; the state needs to do much better either rehabilitating people, or locking them away. I bet 90% of crime is addiction related. Allowing drug addicted people to stay on their drugs is more cruel than locking them up. I've known amazing people who were only amazing because they were in prison and not capable of feeding their addiction. Perhaps the confinement doesn't need to be prison, but it certainly has to remove access from drugs.

The Libertarian perspective would say people have the right to be addicted and suffer the consequences, which is likely death. I'm not prepared to to buy into this perspective yet.

[Fat Charlie]

I think it's part of promoting the general welfare. Or something.

[freebeard]

Regarding mental health issues; the state needs to do much better creating a space to care for crazies. Expecting people to live on the streets with mental issues is cruel to both the individual and to the public.

Be aware that part of that path is wanting to not be indoors. I'm thinking of Uncle Ray, he hung out at White Bird in the 1970s. Would only come indoors to make watermelon seed jokes to the pregnant women. Wound up rolled up in a carpet beside some sidewalk.

OTOH Archigram addressed homelessness in the 1960s with their Suitaloon and Cushicle.



cushicleandsuitaloone3.wordpress.com/

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Be aware that part of that path is wanting to not be indoors.

As you are probably aware, SA talks about outdoor people. There's some truth to that; but pitching a tent in a city is barely "outdoors". Sleeping bag in an alcove is drug addiction. The question is, how free should people be? Free enough to die by mental health problems or addiction? Poor planning is applicable here too.

If I were homeless (I lived in my Subaru Legacy for 2 years), I'd be the envy of the outdoor crowd because that's what optimism brings. Not everyone has that optimism though, and the question is what to do about that?

[Fat Charlie]

Mandate it?

[freebeard]

Psilocybin?

[freebeard]

I've been poking around that website. Here's a better example of empowering the homeless:


cushicleandsuitaloone3.wordpress.com: How Far Followers Have Gone

The Sleeping Bag Dress prototype, reminiscent of Suitaloon, involves a multipurpose kimono-dress that when inflated changes into a cylindrical container inhabitable by one or two people. The Sleeping Bag Dress prototypes operate on a small computer fan powered by a rechargeable lead battery (prototype 1) and NiMH batteries charged by a solar panel incorporated into the dress itself (prototype 2) and looks at the portability and self-sustainability of a wearable cell, comfortable as both, a dress and a temporary shelter. The SleepingBagDress prototype was used in walking performance in Mexico (2003), France (2004), Belgium (2004) and as part of the 2004 International Symposium of Electronic Art

If I was living outdoors, I'd want something like this:


https://bluebadgestyle.com/wp-conten...0x-640x340.jpg

What I have is one of these:


https://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/7/...30642115_o.jpg

You can unzip the lower and fold it double for a seat cushion. If you roll it tight enough, it self-stores in the outer hood. The inner hood has earholes for headphones.

[Ecky]

Originally Posted by hayden55

It seems like in our current capacity yes we are there or are getting there. Broken but money printer go BRRR.

Listen to Economics Explained much?