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Old 05-28-2019, 11:23 AM   #281 (permalink)
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43 MPG and no sixth gear, I think when you've got sixth sorted out it'll call into question whether the Insight ever needed to even be a hybrid.

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Old 05-28-2019, 11:59 AM   #282 (permalink)
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I was quite happy with 100+ mpg round highway trips (scenic route) in my mostly non-hybridized Insight with the stock engine/trans.

But I'm a weirdo. Almost no normal drivers would be satisfied with that engine & gearing combo, sans hybrid power assist.
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Old 05-28-2019, 05:32 PM   #283 (permalink)
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How about "Hotrodding and Ecomodding: 2000 Honda Insight". I'll probably update the first post with a link to when the car was "finished".

@elhigh, with the stock motor, 100mpg trips are normal at moderate speeds and in good weather, so 48mpg isn't all that great, at least relatively speaking.

@hayden55, 3.4 final drive, 0.825 5th gear, 0.647 6th gear, 165/65r14 tires. ~2100rpm @ 65mph.
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Any plans for a taller/wider tire? How are those 165s coping with all that torque?
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They're largely fine unless I gun it in first gear. Sure, I can break them loose in 4th, but I have to be very intentional about it. I'm actually pretty happy with the traction.

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Had to replay that last acceleration run multiple times, that thing is insane! Bet it's hard to even think about fuel economy with that much power at your disposal!

I know someone had some sort of arduino hack for the cluster that made RPMs read correctly for their HCH1 transmission install; would something like that work for your tachometer, or does 4cyl vs 3cyl and 6spd vs 5spd add some complication to that?
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I was thinking about working out something with an Arduino, but came across a used Dakota Digital 6 cylinder to 8 cylinder converter for pretty cheap, so that's going in. The tach basically counts cylinder fires and since the cluster comes from a 3 cylinder car, it assumes 3 fires per rotation. A 4 cylinder engine thus reads one too many.

You're right about economy. It's on my short list to get a gauge in here to temper my use of the go pedal, so much easier to be frugal when you can see the results immediately
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...but so much harder to be frugal when you see the results on the speedometer!

Will you be reusing the stock MPG gauges in the cluster?
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...but so much harder to be frugal when you see the results on the speedometer!

Will you be reusing the stock MPG gauges in the cluster?
If possible. I haven't yet looked into how it works. If it's a simple analog injector pulse length count, like an MPGuino, that's good. If it's a digital output from the original ECU, that's less good.
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