How to Use Less Fuel (yet another HHO thread, lacking substantive evidence)

[mwebb]

Originally Posted by Baggage Handler #2

In another thread, I think greenfuel guy claimed to have written the software.


Could be I got it wrong.

it could be that you are correct
and
they are the same person , who knows .


quoted from the alleged "client" GFB

"I have tested this for more than a yr. I drive 320 miles almost every week since my work location is in Maryland but my house is in Richmond, VA.

I logged my OBDII data using CarChip and wrote software to recreate the fuel map.

The data showed no change in the AFR. That confirms less air means less fuel. Less fuel meant less engine power ... and I noticed that also. Hydroxy injection got some of that power back up to about 2200 RPM. I have been testing Hydroxy boosters since Aug 2008."

[ITGuy]

I think you can download the free OBDII Easy Viewer from there website. There are also test car sample data of O2 values of the Fuel Map (RPM x Load) and (RPM x MAP)

<their website>/downloads/software/

[mwebb]

Originally Posted by ITGuy

I think you can download the free OBDII Easy Viewer from there website. There are also test car sample data of O2 values of the Fuel Map (RPM x Load) and (RPM x MAP)

<their website>/downloads/software/

sorry
your client is full of poop , he has no test results anywhere on his
website, you know the one , the website that is promoting his HOAX .
your client admits in this thread that his product does NOT improve FE yet his website claims his product improves FE .... ?

there is no link or down load area for the software you refer to
but
tell your client he owes me 2 grand .where shall i send the bill ?

[ITGuy]

Did you check the test results of the sample test car?

Originally Posted by mwebb

sorry
your client is full of poop , he has no test results anywhere on his
website, you know the one , the website that is promoting his HOAX .
your client admits in this thread that his product does NOT improve FE yet his website claims his product improves FE .... ?

there is no link or down load area for the software you refer to
but tell your client he owes me 2 grand .where shall i send the bill ?

[ITGuy]

Hi Mech,

GreenFuelBooster says he will be in Richmond all weekends this summer. I can join in. We can compare MPG results.


ITGuy

Originally Posted by Old Mechanic

greenfuelbooster

I live in Williamsburg. Maybe one day we can meet and compare mileage and techniques.

My 94 VX does quite a bit better than 45 MPG unless I am going 75 MPH.

I use preheated intake air to reduce the effective density of the intake charge, and seldom does my tach exceed 2500 RPM, even through a whole tank of fuel.

regards
Mech

[ITGuy]

I can help if you want to try it. Send me private message.

Originally Posted by brucey

Can it be adapted to any car?

I'll bite, I'm in Martinsburg WV/ Haegerstown MD everyday.

[mwebb]

do not loose sight of the FACTs
this lying sack of poop claims on his website , things which he admits below are false.

he sights a "PHD thesis paper" to support his claims , yet the paper is not even about the same topic or methods .

his alleged test results are incomplete at best ,demonstrations of snakeoil salesmanship at worst .
and really do not show or prove anything to anyone who has any real knowledge of the subject .

and he owes me 2 grand - because i CAN SHOW HIS HOAX to be a HOAX.
i suggest anyone considering this HOAX read the whole thread FIRST before parting with any funds

thank me - SPANK EWE GFB & HTG

Originally Posted by greenfuelbooster

I think it got glommed after I mention hydroxy booster.

" In fact the hydroxy booster on my 06 Civic did not increase MPG highway nor city. "

But it got additional power which I did not need. So I tried to find a way to make the car use less fuel. Forget boosters increasing MPG unless your car is very wasteful using fossil fuels.

[Phantom]

If the HHO system works he should be able to ignite the gas with a flame to atleast show that there is energy there.

[ITGuy]

MWebb, what did GreenFuelBooster claim that you think is a HOAX?

Originally Posted by mwebb

do not loose sight of the FACTs
this lying sack of poop claims on his website , things which he admits below are false.

he sights a "PHD thesis paper" to support his claims , yet the paper is not even about the same topic or methods .

his alleged test results are incomplete at best ,demonstrations of snakeoil salesmanship at worst .
and really do not show or prove anything to anyone who has any real knowledge of the subject .

and he owes me 2 grand - because i CAN SHOW HIS HOAX to be a HOAX.
i suggest anyone considering this HOAX read the whole thread FIRST before parting with any funds

thank me - SPANK EWE GFB & HTG

[mwebb]

Originally Posted by Phantom

If the HHO system works he should be able to ignite the gas with a flame to atleast show that there is energy there.

if the HHO system "works" it would have to produce MORE energy than is used to separate the water into hydrogen and oxygen

which it does not and can not .
the energy to split the water is taken from the car's charging system which in turn is derived from increasing the amount of fuel the engine burns because , there is no free lunch or free energy .

therefore HHO takes more energy to Make than it releases when added to the engine for
a NET LOSS of energy

and as an added bonus the HHO brings with it , nasty byproducts of electrolysis to the engine - which do NOT enhance overall engine life .

and for only $700 , such a deal .