08-28-2019, 06:47 AM
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My kit came with bolt gaskets and washers. I spent far too long removing those the first time. Pry them apart with a flathead, cut off the old gasket, slide off the old washer, and I have seen two ways to install the new washers and gaskets. Some tap them into place with a 12mm socket, but I think that twists the rubber too much. Mine seemed to hold, but the other way is to use a small flathead screwdriver to stretch the gasket around the flange.
I do not know the terms. Hopefully this makes sense.
I used a flathead to separate the washer and gasket, slid on the washer, and then used the flathead to stretch the gasket over the end.
I could not see any clear instructions on which way the plug seals go, but as far as I can tell, you are supposed to have metal-on-rubber on all sides. If you install it the other way, there is a ring of air between the valve cover and the seal, and I do not believe that is correct.
1AAuto says to use a pocket screwdriver to flange the seal around the tube. You need to make sure the seal is around the tube. I did this last time. Hopefully it helped, and it would have failed earlier otherwise.
When you install the bolts and tighten, go carefully and evenly. I think mine got pinched last time, which might be why they failed.
Hopefully this fixes my problem. From what I can tell, if this does not work, I need to remove the rocker arm assembly and replace the seals underneath.
7.2 ft-lbs for the valve cover bolts and 13 ft-lbs for the spark plugs. Who torques spark plugs?! After all of this, I am not taking chances!
People had different methods for removing the oil, but one guy said to spray brake cleaner into the spark plug tubes when you first remove the boots, that way the oil can evaporate before you finish. Brake cleaner sure evaporates quickly, but I do not believe it makes oil evaporate, especially since I used two quick squirts (he said 2 - 3). It seemed to dissolve the oil and just sit there, so I cut a shop towel, and had it soak up the liquid.
Well, the engine seemed to operate within specified parameters until the alternator belt squealed ridiculously at 0240.
It squeals sometimes on startup. I replaced the belts when I replaced the hoses, seals, and timing belt, all with Honda parts. The belt gets loose sometimes, but seemed tight earlier. Too tight? I don't know!
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08-28-2019, 07:28 AM
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Oil on the belt?
I snug spark plugs then add a quarter turn, or something unscientific like that. I've never had a loose one or had one break while trying to remove it.
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08-28-2019, 11:01 AM
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As far as I can tell, there is not any oil on the belt, although there is a large amount of dirt. I blame the lack of pavement.
I started my car and the belt said "Chirp, chirp, chirp, squeal!" I loosened it perhaps one full turn, tried again, and it was quieter. I never start my car twice in a row, but so far it only makes noise on startup. I loosened it again and it was louder.
Loosen, quieter.
Loosen, louder.
It was finally quieter than any of the previous attempts, but there is a clear gap between the bolthead and the bracket, it did not seem that having it that loose accomplished anything.
Perhaps I needed to tighten.
I sure hope it wasn't suddenly the other belt!
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08-28-2019, 11:52 AM
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Which end of the plugs is the oil on?
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08-28-2019, 04:36 PM
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I think top, the valve cover seals are leaking oil in the spark plug valleys filling them up, dad had a 67 gmc pickup with v6 with the plugs on the inside and they'd fill up with oil too.
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08-28-2019, 07:33 PM
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The plugs were covered with oil.
I drive from the usual school to another one on Wednesdays, half an hour away down a back road, and my car was misfiring again.
As important as it is to minimize belt squeal, I am pretty sure that the half twist standard is more important.
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08-28-2019, 08:25 PM
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It needs to be tensioned within specs. If it's making noise, you need to fix that problem, which might mean cleaning the belt, putting belt dressing on it, or replacing some accessory that is placing an unnecessary (bad bearing, failing alternator, etc) load on the engine.
If it's a chirp chirp noise, then I suspect a spot of oil on the belt.
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08-28-2019, 08:56 PM
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It says "Chirp, chirp, chirp, squeal!" as soon as it starts up. It is just a little tight and warms up and loosens enough in five seconds?
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08-28-2019, 11:15 PM
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I'd say time for a replacement car. Your income depends on a reliable car, time for one.
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08-29-2019, 04:39 AM
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Due to the chirping fan belt?
Okay...
Well, if I ever have time to work on my Civic again!
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