If you could fill any car with Prius guts, which would you choose? :)

[Shaneajanderson]

All that said above, do you think it would be possible to yank the front axle out (4WD rig) and replace it with the prius drivetrain? I have no idea how big the prius motor is, but the front axle on this old Ford is HUGE and hanging way out in space, there's a solid 6" air gap between it and the motor.

[freebeard]

The Prius drivetrain consists of an engine and two electric motors. Consider the Lexus LX400h/Highlander. It is also Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive technology, but it has an electric rear axle (some model years).


(compared here with a VW engine case)

68hp and 98lb but it needs an independent suspension. ....and 400 volts.

[Shaneajanderson]

Originally Posted by freebeard

The Prius drivetrain consists of an engine and two electric motors. Consider the Lexus LX400h/Highlander. It is also Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive technology, but it has an electric rear axle (some model years).


(compared here with a VW engine case)

68hp and 98lb but it needs an independent suspension. ....and 400 volts.

So if I were to pull the front axle, put the Prius motors on the front hubs, and get the biggest oversize alternator I can do you think the old 302 could power it? This again would mostly be a dead-stop assist for heavy loads, and maybe to help keep speed on the uphills sometimes. I wonder if it would also be strong enough for quick trips around town? I have a manual transmission so I could just put it in neutral and run on the electric front drive. I can arm strong steer this pickup if I need to, and I've always thought power brakes were just foolish outside of a CMV.

[freebeard]

Using the 302 to power an electric axle would be a series hybrid. With lower efficiency.

Once again, the Prius electric motors are integrated into a bellhousing on the ICE. Someone else will have to comment on converting them to hub motors.

If you use the Lexus/Highlander axle with a separate controller and battery pack, that would be a through-the-road hybrid with separated systems.

[Tahoe_Hybrid]

Originally Posted by Shaneajanderson

All that said above, do you think it would be possible to yank the front axle out (4WD rig) and replace it with the prius drivetrain? I have no idea how big the prius motor is, but the front axle on this old Ford is HUGE and hanging way out in space, there's a solid 6" air gap between it and the motor.

your wasting your time I don't even think the engine could move it. (weight limitations)


2mode v8 364CI Hybrid would be the best bet good luck finding one though
4x4 or rwd
it's body on frame (body swap will not work because of wheel base) so you could just do a powertrain swap and your good to go... it sounds a lot simpler then just trying to weld on a prius to your ford

[Shaneajanderson]

Originally Posted by Tahoe_Hybrid

your wasting your time I don't even think the engine could move it. (weight limitations)


2mode v8 364CI Hybrid would be the best bet good luck finding one though
4x4 or rwd
it's body on frame (body swap will not work because of wheel base) so you could just do a powertrain swap and your good to go... it sounds a lot simpler then just trying to weld on a prius to your ford

I didn't figure the electric could get this thing moving on it's own, I was hoping to use it as a front wheel assist for take off when heavy towing. I have the stupid Mazda 5-speed without a proper low first gear for heavy loads. I'm not going to do a full engine swap on this rig, but if I did I'd put in a 7.3L veggie oil/used motor oil burner.

[freebeard]

How about a mild hybrid?

https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tor-35003.html

It's only 20hp and goes through the transmission, but it looks easier to me than anything else, and you do get regen, etc.

[Tahoe_Hybrid]

Originally Posted by Shaneajanderson

I've had a thought recently to add an electric drive in front of my rear driveshaft on my F150. The electric could to be used for moving it empty short distances, and help with starting out and going up steep hills while towing.

It hasn't gone beyond that though, I'm not familiar enough with EV drivetrains to know if this is even possible.

a pre-us can't TOW it would blow the tranny let alone move 6000 pounds

[Vman455]

Originally Posted by Tahoe_Hybrid

a pre-us can't TOW it would blow the tranny let alone move 6000 pounds

I guess these guys didn't get your memo:

[Shaneajanderson]

Originally Posted by Tahoe_Hybrid

a pre-us can't TOW it would blow the tranny let alone move 6000 pounds

Again the idea would be an assist system for starting with the trailer. The gas engine would do most of the work, the electric just putting down an extra 50 ft lbs or so till 10 mph