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Old 09-18-2012, 10:46 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:47 PM   #52 (permalink)
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After crawling through this most laborious thread, my conclusion is you will only recognise your own experimentation and empirical data as valid and appropriate for your purposes.
Why bother with us in the first place.
Your overpowered Nissan truck gets 12.5 MPG. My Fiesta does 45 MPG, my bike is just below 92, and my 41 year old bike still gets 4 times the mileage of your truck.
Your conclusion about two different engines needing the same amount of fuel to do the same amount of work is fallacious, and the best engine in the world today is at 56% thermal efficiency.
Not much of a group personality from my observation. You certainly do not need all of us other members with our likewise overinflated egos, unless I misread you intentions (probably not).

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In the final analysis, I always rely on my own judgement, and take full responsibility for my decisions. That doesn't mean I don't listen to the viewpoint of others. As I said, I am interested in hard data, and if it is something I am interested in, I may perform my own corroborative experiments. That is the mantra of the scientific method - independent corroboration.

I have been involved with a lot of studies. And I will tell you now that many so called "studies" are nothing more than agenda-driven drivel - bought and paid for by some group with a predetermined agenda, and the so called study results not supported by the data presented.

You should not feel insulted because I might want to do some experimenting on my own. In fact, if you are on the level, you should welcome it.
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Do you really think acting childish will improve your credibility?
Some "people" seem to believe so.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:29 PM   #54 (permalink)
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You seem to be more than a little peeved that anyone would question your mighty wisdom.

I'm eager to see testing results and experimental data, as well as the methodology and procedures used. I give a lot of weight to that. I don't give a lot of weight to unsupported opinions, or people who get huffy when questioned or challenged.

I'll eventually get around to all the posts, In any regard regarding experiments, independent corroboration is a necessity. And if there isn't any, then I may do it myself.

I'm not peeved as much as completely confused by your actions. You come here asking for help on the subject of fuel efficiency. Then, when you get help, you completely disregard it and while doing so show your ignorance on the topic. I figured you were here to learn. Anyone can search the internet for studies and papers. You came here and asked for help and that is what we have been providing and also what you have been ignoring... It makes no sense to me.
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I'm not peeved as much as completely confused by your actions. You come here asking for help on the subject of fuel efficiency. Then, when you get help, you completely disregard it and while doing so show your ignorance on the topic. I figured you were here to learn. Anyone can search the internet for studies and papers. You came here and asked for help and that is what we have been providing and also what you have been ignoring... It makes no sense to me.
Maybe we both have some puzzlement and disappointment
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This web site showed up on a Google search I made looking for information on removing the inefficiencies of EPA-mandated impacts on vehicle efficiency - in particular, ethanol.

I think there may be some useful information here, but so far, only one commentator has been friendly - Ron. Many of you are acting like thin-skinned, condescending little divas on the attack if your unsolicited advice goes unheeded for the moment, or questioned in any way.

Maybe you should all just back off, and let me find my own way around the site.
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Old 09-19-2012, 04:13 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Many of you are acting like thin-skinned, condescending little divas on the attack if your unsolicited advice goes unheeded for the moment, or questioned in any way.

Welcome to the internet! You'll fit in just fine!
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I'm an old (70+), retired civil engineer. Just bought a new, 2012 Nissan Frontier Crew Cab SL. Love the new truck, EXCEPT FOR THE MILEAGE - 12.5 mpg first tank. Totally unacceptable.

I'm her for pointers on improving the fuel mileage (short of leaving the vehicle on the dealer's steps)

I am interested in techniques for removing the ethanol, adding acetone, and perhaps the pros & cons of adding diesel to the gasoline.

Seen some good discussions here.
First post.
"I'm here for pointers on improving fuel mileage".

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"Many of you are acting like thin skinned, condescending little divas on the attack if your unsolicited advice goes unheeded for the moment, or questioned in any way."

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Old 09-19-2012, 08:39 PM   #58 (permalink)
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He and his 12 mpg truck deserve each other. I hope he puts 1000's of hours into this ethanol thing and gets the appropriate results.
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I'll bet I could get 20 in that truck on pump E10.

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I'll bet I could get 20 in that truck on pump E10.

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I think a lot of us could get 20 MPG with that "truck". Without even trying all that hard.

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