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Old 01-15-2014, 01:13 PM   #1291 (permalink)
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Is Christopher Monckton right or wrong on anthropogenic climate change?

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Old 01-15-2014, 01:33 PM   #1292 (permalink)
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Is Christopher Monckton right or wrong on anthropogenic climate change?
No idea.

What is he saying ?

He seems a rum cove in any case.

Interestingly, this post hit my email as :

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Is Christopher Monckton right or wrong on climate change?
Is Al Gore correct ?

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Out of respect for CarBEN, I took a look at the Wikipedia page.

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Monckton inherited a peerage after the passing of the House of Lords Act 1999,[12] which provided that "[n]o-one shall be a member of the House of Lords by virtue of a hereditary peerage." Monckton asserts that the Act is flawed and unconstitutional, and has referred to himself as "a member of the Upper House of the United Kingdom legislature" in a letter to US Senators,[13] and also as "a member of the Upper House but without the right to sit or vote."[14]
The House of Lords authorities have said Monckton is not and never has been a member and that there is no such thing as a non-voting or honorary member of the House.[6][15] In July 2011 the House took the "unprecedented step" of publishing online a cease and desist letter to Monckton from the Clerk of the Parliaments, which concluded, "I am publishing this letter on the parliamentary website so that anybody who wishes to check whether you are a Member of the House of Lords can view this official confirmation that you are not."[16][17]
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He wrote a paper on the privatisation of council housing by means of a rent-to-mortgages scheme that brought him to the attention of Downing Street.[23] Ferdinand Mount, the head of the Number 10 Policy Unit and a former CPS director, brought Monckton into the Policy Unit in 1982.[24] He was recruited as a domestic specialist with responsibilities for housing and parliamentary affairs,[25][26] working alongside Mount and Peter Shipley[27] on projects such as the phasing out of council housing.[25] He left the unit in 1986 to join the Today newspaper.[24][28]
Monckton has asserted that he served as science adviser to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher during his years with the Number 10 Policy Unit, and that "it was I who—on the prime minister's behalf—kept a weather eye on the official science advisers to the government, from the chief scientific adviser downward."[29] John Gummer, who was Environment Minister under Thatcher, however, has claimed Monckton was "a bag carrier in Mrs Thatcher's office. And the idea that he advised her on climate change is laughable."[30] Writing in The Guardian, Bob Ward of the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment notes that Thatcher's memoirs, The Downing Street Years, do not mention Monckton and credit George Guise with the role of science advisor.[29]

In 2011 he stood as lead party-list candidate for UKIP in the Scottish Parliament constituency of Mid Scotland and Fife[35] but did not gain election, with the UKIP list coming seventh after scoring 1.1% of the region's vote.[36] Monckton also headed UKIP's policy unit for a while but according to the party's spokesman he had relinquished any formal role by June 2012, moving into a "semi-detached" relationship with UKIP.[33] By January 2013 he had become UKIP's president in Scotland[37] but was sacked by UKIP leader Nigel Farage in November 2013 following factional infighting.[38]
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In 1999, Monckton created and published the Eternity puzzle, a geometric puzzle that involved tiling a dodecagon with 209 irregularly shaped polygons called "polydrafters". A £1 million prize was won after 18 months by two Cambridge mathematicians.[40] By that time, 500,000 puzzles had been sold. Monckton launched the Eternity II puzzle in 2007, but, after the four-year prize period, no winner came forward to claim the $2 million prize.
I know you've asked the question at least three times. I'm not sure why you focus on this guy. I see he's responsible for the housing situtaion in the UK. Max Keiser rants about that all the time. Eternity II suggests he's a crafty dodger.

On the basis that I have some idea about his ideology, I'll go with a generic response: "I reject your entire premise and substitute my own reality."

Look at our neighborhood; Venus and Saturn are changing their period of rotation (that's massive!), Jupiter lost a stripe and gained Red Spot Junior, The Sun's solar maximum is equivalent to previous minimums. Since we're not have hurricanes the size of Brazil that last for months, I'd say the chem-trails are working. :where's thumbup when you need it:

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Hey, where'd he go? We were going to talk about solutions instead of hand-wringing.
 
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Hey, where'd he go? We were going to talk about solutions instead of hand-wringing.
A different thread maybe ?
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Christopher Monckton was the darling of the climate denier crowd, and he thinks that carbon dioxide can't be bad because it's plant food. He testified before Congress, and he has toured the world, and the folks at Heartland Institute call him and "expert" on climate change.

Lord Christopher Monckton | Heartland Institute

Great Is Truth, and Mighty Above All Things | Heartland Institute

He has been a speaker at a Heartland conference:

Heartland Denial Conference: Special Guest Lord Monckton Goes Birther, Admits He Has

Oh, and they love Lord Christopher Monckton over at Watts Up With That:

Christopher Monckton 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley | Watts Up With That?

Christopher Monckton is also a birther. And he has claimed he has a cure for AIDS.

Yeah, he's credible ... With supporters like him, who needs to worry about climate change?

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Old 01-15-2014, 11:25 PM   #1297 (permalink)
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Christopher Monckton was the darling of the climate denier crowd, and he thinks that carbon dioxide can't be bad because it's plant food. He testified before Congress, and he has toured the world, and the folks at Heartland Institute call him and "expert" on climate change.
Neil never engages in discussion or debate. He just advances his latest straw man (in this case bringing up Christopher Monckton, persistently). Then Neil knocks him down, gleefully, to demonstrate all that he knows, culled from activist websites and their talking points.

Who cares about Christopher Monckton???

It's time to create the Activist Corral and separate it from The Lounge.

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Old 01-15-2014, 11:31 PM   #1298 (permalink)
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I like pie!

I miss Ross Perot.

He couldn't convince anyone without always pushing his charts before the camera.

"Now Larry, I'm glad you mentioned that, so let me show you my charts..."
 
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How is being wrong on anthropogenic climate change irrelevant? It is a exactly what we are talking about - and Christopher Monckton is wrong on climate change.

Other than Richard Lindzen and Willie Soon - what other scientist(s) reject anthropogenic climate change? Surely you can come up with some? Who wrote that one paper mentioned in the SA article?
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