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Old 11-14-2010, 05:36 PM   #161 (permalink)
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Old 11-14-2010, 05:44 PM   #162 (permalink)
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If they do play with it, I'll be watching. Do you think they are interested, it appears they have a plug-in hybrids page on their site but there are no mentions of vehicle models other than in the links at the bottom.

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I think they are already declaring victory because they are plug-in hybrid advocates. When and/or if they get a Volt to tear apart will be a function of time. I could see them replacing the battery pack with a better one that can be drawn down more than the current percentage.

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IIRC the Volt's discharge rate just depends on the OEM firmware, not the pack per say. It's so GM won't have to replace the pack even if someone in CA or any other state where it's covered by the 150k mile warranty pulls all 150k miles in EV mode at high'ish discharge rates.

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Our test is completely different. You can't compare numbers.

And your probability of surviving a 35mph offset frontal impact or side impact is 0% in all of those. Ah the good old days.

Totally! Classic cars were super safe. Not like these plastic trash heaps they sell today.
Evidently many feel that a head-on is all but inevitable. I'd suggest contemplating the odds of such an occurance, and then living life accordingly.
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If you are stating "facts", references, links, etc. to back them up are appreciated.

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Opinions are welcome, and don't need to be backed up by anything, they are just opinions.

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I'm inclined to agree, but realistically w/ a vehicle fleet at ~25mpg, getting to ~35mpg will get better savings than going from ~35mpg to ~50mpg.
Is this the same rationale that got that Suzuki exec skewered here so badly? ;p

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Ultimately it will depend on gas prices. If the price of oil goes up or if we increase the gas tax then we'll see a lot more people interested in more fuel efficient cars.
I think that's when, not it. And people as a whole will not become interested one millisecond before they have to.
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