Looking for help building a Gas Vapor system

[racprops]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

This is pure unicorn stuff, no car was ever made let alone a trip in 1930, and patents aren't a sign of actually producing anything, just the idea that maybe someday it could be done. A little girl applied for and received the patent for "swinging side it side on a regular swingset".

There are a number of these stories..unicorn perhaps, but I think there is a trail of unicorn droppings to follow...

Having a gallon vaporized into a larger volume doesn't change the BTU in that volume. It's just harder to store.

Will not be storing it, convert and feed right into the engine.

Higher octane isn't better, technically it would be lower octane, the higher the octane the harder it is to burn. The air to fuel ratio is set to allow the converter to work, (What converter??) this is not an option for a modern car maker to ditch. (Of course not after all there is Millions in low MPG in gas and taxes.) As I said, this lean mixture may be the biggest help in these vapor carbs but the same thing can be achieved with programming in a FI car or with jets in a normal carb.
(NO it can't I found the limit on my 4.6 Ford is 16.5 at that it can get around 35MPG.)
There is nothing special there about vapor. (I disagree, read any thing on a ICE and gasoline and they say EVERY TIME the engine burns VAPOR!! Liquid gas will NOT burn.) I bet it is not cleaner then a normal raito in a normal modern car with converter. (Are you talking about the CAT??? Sad we need it to catch the wasted GAS left over from the engines incomplete combustion...)The Ford Raptor for instance actually cleans the air it uses... That's right, it's tailpipe HC levels are actually lower then the HC levels in air surrounding us all.

So it has a bigger CAT..that is a patch to fix something that does not work right in the first place.

Rich

[jakobnev]

Why don't you first test your idea with a small stationary generator?

It will be much easier to do the needed mods, and performing controlled experiments will be much less of a hassle than dealing with countless variables that are involved when using a car.

[racprops]

Every Tom, Dick and Harry has made a Briggs and Station motor run on any thing...

The real test is to make a car run on something.

Rich

[jakobnev]

Show me one Tom, Dick, or Harry who has proven the increased efficiency from a system like this.

[racprops]

Which are you asking...that a bunch of people have demoed things on a Small lawn mower motor or that someone have made a vapor system??

LOOK HERE:

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...por+lawn+mower

20 on page one and there are 10 Pages of these demos...

That is some 200 of them.

Rich

[pgfpro]

Originally Posted by freebeard

It sounds dirty? Recycled toilet paper is made from post-consumer waste, the paint thinner is probably is probably not used and full of paint solids.

At least, one would hope...

The waste solvent is being processed by using a paint solvent recycler.
This is what the solvent looks like after being ran through the recycler.

Its crystal clear. I have tore apart my fuel pump and an injectors to see the affects of the paint waste solvent. after using it for 5 months there were no visual or performance issues.

Its way cleaner then bio-diesel.

More info here, post 301.
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...d-28776-8.html

[racprops]

The 64,000 dollar question is what is your costs, after all gas in around $2.00 per now.

[pgfpro]

Originally Posted by racprops

The 64,000 dollar question is what is your costs, after all gas in around $2.00 per now.

Very good question!!!

My cost to me is $0.00. My customers give me the recycled paint solvent for free. What happens is they can only use so much, do to it is used only as a cleaner to clean their spray guns. They get to a point of they have to much solvent on hand and have to have it hauled away as hazardous waste. This can cost them hundreds of dollars. The crazy thing is when they do have it hauled away is what do they do with this solvent? I found out where I live it is incinerated in a burning process. They just burn it and no electricity is generated.

racprops,
Sorry to jack your thread. I find what you are doing is very interesting. I will have some more info I think you find interesting based on my findings of different fuels and how they reacted to heat and vaporization.

[racprops]

Your like the people with bio-diesel whom used to get the cooking oils for free, in a great place...until so many were asking for it they started asking for money.

No problem about any hijacking, it has not been going anywhere...

31 pages and I have not learned hardly anything...

So yes I am interested in your data.

Rich

[Frank Lee]

Soooo... you have learned a lot?