Looking for help building a Gas Vapor system

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[Frank Lee]

I see you are ignoring feedback, just as you did with your first wave of... of... whatever.

You should find George Wiseman- he's a man after your own heart. You two would hit it off famously.

Good luck, you will need it.

[RustyLugNut]

I am pretty much familiar with Covey, Pogue, George Wiseman and others. They keep making "claims". Anecdotal customer claims can be indicative, but are hardly tested facts.

If you have a secret device you are working on and are not willing to divulge in a public forum ( and you should not ), then I suggest you find a proper development firm and have them sign an NDA and look over your ideas for technical help. There are dozens of them in your area, in all likely hood.

This forum is familiar with lean burn and the advantages it can provide.

This forum is familiar with hot air intakes and some of the cold start and expanded volume advantages it can provide.

This forum is familiar with detonation conditions and it's extension to HCCI engines and the advantages it provides.

This forum is familiar with gas vapor phase fuels and the percentage of thermodynamic advantage it can provide ( the elimination of an irreversible energy loss ).

Vapor Phase fuel systems use the above principles to operate and extend them to more complex interactions depending on design. If you want to move forward, you must understand all of the above and then build on it.

[oil pan 4]

If the gasoline fully vaporizes at 250°F why not heat the air up to around 250°F.
On my old carburetored camaro the carb would be at about 200°F and the air would be around 160°F to 180°F with a stock intake manifold and air filter drawing air from under the hood.
Didn't really see any improvement in fuel economy until I leaned out the cruise mixture.

[oil pan 4]

Also if you have a secret device that improves fuel economy you need to keep your affairs in order, habe a will, life insurance ect. Because you should expect to turn up dead in the near future.
Better public domain it. That's what I would do.

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[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by RustyLugNut

The problem with VW was they cheated to gain an advantage. But what if you could build a small, fuel efficient vehicle that was just outside the emission laws? Well , you can.

Kinetic Vehicles

Jack McCornack provides plans and parts to duplicate his Kubota powered racer. It is capable of over 100 mpg with a more aero body. And it is very usable if not really a "race car".

Any loophole you think you might have will be closed if any sizable portion of the population suddenly was using it in their daily commute. Elio better go with car standards if they are smart rather then having to re-engineer the thing again when the DOT reclassifies it a car.

Not directed at RustyLugNut, but that Scientific American article quoted was I believe from the early 50's. So if you have a flathead Ford, a vapor carb might be the ticket... that or a modern MPI sysyem.