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Old 03-24-2009, 12:12 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Mods, this all is sooo much fitting the pattern. The great 'Magnavex' is nothing but a clever / needlessly complicated magnetic coupler, the 'magnetic motor' originally described and demonstrated is nothing but a clever magnetic curio, being touted as perpetual motion machine only because there is insufficient understanding of the finality (of course, relative, but pretty much absolute for all practical purposes) of laws of thermodynamics, and a fascinating smooth talking snake oil merchant who drops hints about multi-million dollar investors but still talks to perfect strangers on online fora about inventions that are 'patent pending'...

Maybe lets all get back to work and thank Bill for leaving this forum unmolested till this thread came about. Maybe we need that unmolested peace to continue...
Golly. If you consider my input to be "molesting" *YOUR* forum, then take heart! You and most of those I've conversed with, are not bullies nor stupid little kids, but you personally are sufficiently sarcastic enough to suit my tastes, and I applaud you. I'm sorry I upset your applecart. I was trying to get to know some of the nicer ones here, but hey, if you don't want to know, then you don't want to know. Enjoy my silence.
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:15 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Parting shot: I love being characterized as a "smooth talking snake oil merchant!" How very humorous an appellation! Points to you!!
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Old 03-24-2009, 01:35 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Someone was asking for a working diagram of the magnetic engine. Here's one showing the basic principle:
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Old 03-24-2009, 02:08 PM   #44 (permalink)
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And thus ends the drama. (But the mystery remains!)

We now return you to your regular forum, where members enjoy participating in the free exchange of information related to automotive efficiency.
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Old 03-24-2009, 02:10 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I find the few that claim to speak for the forum annoying. You insult something you know nothing about? You want Bill to spill the beans because you want an utopia? Well, that's great but not possible. As soon as he spills, someone would find the information and use it for profit, just as he wishes to do. But they'll blow through the cash to ensure only they receive profits from it, or even produce it. This is all assuming it works. Then your utopia is shot, as the product wasn't protected from the greedy.

Guilty until proven innocent I assume?

By no means do I believe, but I don't assume it's false either. I'll wait to see the results. If it goes nowhere like many have before, I'll assume it was proven guilty of law violation. But I won't pass judgment, as it's not mine to pass.

I highly doubt any one person, or even the collective of the forum fully understands magnetism and the effects of gravity.
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I think one of the biggest problems with the whole story is his willingness to take money from you and I who know nothing about this device. But his "Investors" offering $50+ million that know all the details about the project, who may or may not already know it does work, the main reason he's unwilling to give even the slightest details, he's unwilling to accept a dime from. Is that not what investors are for?

Just seems a little odd to me.

I guess I look at the pretty red prius we have on the forums and think if some investor showed up and said I'll give $2million to make those body kits happen. I would imagine just about the whole board would pitch in.
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I'll be the first to admit I know little about magnetism or gravity.

That doesn't change the fact that it's entirely appropriate to question the motives of the original poster: If he's sitting on the invention of the millennium, and has big potential backers as stated, with all due respect, why on earth is he wasting time here?

I'm actually somewhat disappointed that he failed to predict that he might not be warmly received, both for (1) the subject matter generally, and (2) the "I know something good, but I'm not going to tell you" approach specifically.

It basically begs a big WTF? Invoking Sagan: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I wish Bill the best possible success.

But I was pretty sure this thread was going nowhere from post 1.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:24 PM   #48 (permalink)
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This was a funny thread. I wish he had not left yet so we could link him to the many dead threads about HHO, perpetual motion, strapping alternators to your wheels, etc and the wonderfully warm welcome that those "post #1"s received.

Oh, btw, I have a battery that doesn't ever need charging. You just shake a stick at it. Anyone investing?
 
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Damn!!!!

I missed out on this.



I really do enjoy thwarting bunko development projects.

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