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'rear of the new Prius'
I'll have to wait until some 'blue-print'-type images, with three-views ( or more ) become available.
Without 'true-length' dimensions to go by, distorted photographs may just lead us down rabbit holes.
There's a million ways to get Cd 0.197. I wouldn't expect Toyota to do it solely with the aft-body.
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11-23-2022, 01:59 PM
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I've no experience with any literature which demonstrated actual, real-world use, and the efficacy of such a structure, as regards to drag reduction.
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It might be an interesting test case for your Aero / Thermodynamic Energy Balance Protocol thread.
Widebody with 650HP vs stock. The only literature I read suggested that the wheelbase is a tad short and wide for 200MPH.
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That's at least six-hours on my part for research, organization, calcs., and typing for presentation, once I have the raw data.
That's why I posted it.
Either you knuckleheads are going to 'learn how to fish', or you'll be waiting until the Arctic freezes over before you'll get anything else out of me.
'Once is 'art', twice is perversion.'
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11-23-2022, 03:00 PM
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Happenstance --> Coincidence -> Enemy Action.
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Either you knuckleheads are going to 'learn how to fish', or you'll be waiting until the Arctic freezes over before you'll get anything else out of me.
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So you're saying runaway greenhouse isn't in our future?
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11-23-2022, 04:51 PM
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runaway greenhouse
We're in right now.
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11-23-2022, 06:22 PM
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Scott Adams says sometimes it's hard to tell good news from bad. Which is this?
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https://www.cnn.com › 2021 › 10 › 09 › weather › weather-record-cold-antarctica-climate-change › index.html
Antarctica's last 6 months were the coldest on record | CNN
9 Oct 2021 In a year of extreme heat, Antarctica's last six months were the coldest on record. "For the polar darkness period, from April through September, the average temperature was -60.9 degrees...
https://www.nationalgeographic.com › science › article › coldest-place-earth-measured-temperature-antarctica-science
Coldest Known Temperature on Earth Recorded in Antarctica - Science
About minus 144°F, according to recent satellite measurements of the coldest known place on the planet. Scientists recorded this extreme temperature on the ice sheet deep in the middle of...
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OTOH that's from DuckDuckGo All. Click on News and you get
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October 2022: Earth's 4th-warmest October on record
ClimateConnections|8 days ago
October 2022 was Earth's fourth-warmest October NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) reported November 15. NASA rat
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Why not both? Why not The Lounge?
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Funny how the new Prius doesn’t even use air curtains on the front. Wonder why? Toyota seems to still be against heavy coverage hubcap/wheel cap covers while Hyundai has embraced it.
Did my gold panning trip that in the summer usually gets me 68-72mpg average with no mirrors and wheel covers. 41 degrees today, still had wheel skirts on, but I only averaged 57 mpg. Huge hit just from temp drop. Maybe it would’ve seen 59mpg with no mirrors. Still… temps make a big diff I guess in a hybrid
Taking my wheel skirts off this weekend and getting my snow tires put on, so there goes another aero hit. I’ll be completely back to stock body. For aero mods in snow I’ll have to focus on the under body, and something at the rear that won’t be affected by heavy snow driving
Aero, what’s your opinion on the box cavity thing at the rear of the KIA EV6 suv?
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Hard to read a corporation's 'brainz'. Could be beans counted, could be NVH.
Maybe you're driving something that doesn't have a lot of 'low-hanging fruit'?
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11-28-2022, 11:13 AM
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Scott Adams says sometimes it's hard to tell good news from bad. Which is this?
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Why not both? Why not The Lounge?
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Rather than adulterate the thread, let's move this discussion to the lounge. I gathered some data which might shed some light.
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Funny how the new Prius doesn’t even use air curtains on the front. Wonder why? Toyota seems to still be against heavy coverage hubcap/wheel cap covers while Hyundai has embraced it.
Did my gold panning trip that in the summer usually gets me 68-72mpg average with no mirrors and wheel covers. 41 degrees today, still had wheel skirts on, but I only averaged 57 mpg. Huge hit just from temp drop. Maybe it would’ve seen 59mpg with no mirrors. Still… temps make a big diff I guess in a hybrid
Taking my wheel skirts off this weekend and getting my snow tires put on, so there goes another aero hit. I’ll be completely back to stock body. For aero mods in snow I’ll have to focus on the under body, and something at the rear that won’t be affected by heavy snow driving
Aero, what’s your opinion on the box cavity thing at the rear of the KIA EV6 suv?
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I'm not seeing any sort of 'box-cavity' back there.
The hatch wing is aspirated.
There's just 'tearing edges' 'burst-edges', a 1935 technology.
The 'raked' hatch could never produce any pressure recovery.
Is it also around Cd 0.29, like it's sister, the Ioniq 5?
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