Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Hybrids
Register Now
 Register Now

Reply  Post New Thread
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-03-2009, 10:12 AM   #21 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
NeilBlanchard's Avatar
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Maynard, MA Eaarth
Posts: 7,877

Mica Blue - '05 Scion xA RS 2.0
Team Toyota
90 day: 42.48 mpg (US)

Forest - '15 Nissan Leaf S
Team Nissan
90 day: 156.46 mpg (US)

Number 7 - '15 VW e-Golf SEL
90 day: 155.81 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,394
Thanked 2,887 Times in 1,814 Posts
I think that it would be better as an BEV, or a plug in serial hybrid: eliminate the ultra-fancy 7-speed dual clutch transmission it currently has and increase the size of the electric motor, and use the 800cc diesel engine (or a smaller version of it!) to generate power to charge the battery. A bigger battery would be good, too.

The aero drag could be improved with (at least partial) rear wheel skirts, and a longer, slightly more tapered rear -- the "shoulders" should slope downwards (I think), etc.

Sincerely, Neil

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

Old 12-03-2009, 10:52 AM   #22 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: belgium
Posts: 663

vectra a - '95 Opel Vectra GLS
90 day: 37.51 mpg (US)
Thanks: 14
Thanked 60 Times in 43 Posts
sorry posted to soon
aerˇoˇdyˇnamˇics: the science of passing gass

*i can coast for miles and miles and miles*
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 11:46 AM   #23 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 595
Thanks: 106
Thanked 113 Times in 71 Posts
Looks slick, though the interior (on the concept model anyway) has a look that won't age well, when actual people start actually climbing in and out of it and using it as the utility that cars are.
2005 Escape 2.3 MT 2WD
2002 Mustang 3.8 AT
2015 Ram 1500 5.7L 4WD
2002 Motobecane 700DS
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 12:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
Sorrow Six Star's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 90

Winona - '86 Subaru XT DL
Thanks: 20
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Subaru did the active grill block back in 86 too bad it never got past the concept.

kind of sad it's still only on a concept car.
nice find!
Originally Posted by bgd73 View Post
Legends are legends after all..
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Sorrow Six Star For This Useful Post:
MetroMPG (12-03-2009)
Old 12-03-2009, 01:03 PM   #25 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 259

Bio Deezler (sold) - '03 Volkswagen Jetta GLS TDI
90 day: 50.78 mpg (US)

The Beast. - '03 GMC Sierra 2500HD SLT
90 day: 12.86 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 27 Times in 18 Posts
Yeah that 70 mpg number is a real snafu!

This thing could break 100 mpg EASILY.
If TDIs with over twice the displacement and vehicle weight can crack 60 mpg without breaking much of a sweat than 70 mpg with this thing would be disastrously disappointing. If somehow VW is listening, I want mine with ~1.3L engine and ~100 HP. I will give up 10 mpg for some serious driving fun.

  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 01:31 PM   #26 (permalink)
In Lean Burn Mode
pgfpro's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 1,428

MisFit Talon - '91 Eagle Talon TSi
Team Turbocharged!
90 day: 41.03 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,031
Thanked 484 Times in 316 Posts
WOW Nice find, drool.

VW is all over it. I like everything about it. Other manufacters need to make notes.
Pressure Gradient Force
The Positive Side of the Number Line

  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 02:13 PM   #27 (permalink)
Batman Junior
MetroMPG's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,882

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 61.98 mpg (US)

Fancy Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 58.72 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 57.23 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,563
Thanked 6,366 Times in 3,295 Posts
This car begs the question: if Honda's first generation Insight had been a little longer with 2 more seats, would it have had a different outcome?
Latest mods: 3-cylinder Mitsubishi Mirage. EcoMods now in progress...
Ecodriving test:
Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown

has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 02:17 PM   #28 (permalink)
Wannabe greenie
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Yorba Linda, CA
Posts: 1,098

The Clunker (retired) - '90 Honda Accord EX sedan
Team Honda
90 day: 29.49 mpg (US)

Mountain Goat - '96 Ford Ranger XLT 4x4 SuperCab
90 day: 18 mpg (US)

Zippy - '10 Kymco Agility 125
90 day: 65.03 mpg (US)
Thanks: 5
Thanked 53 Times in 40 Posts
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
This car begs the question: if Honda's first generation Insight had been a little longer with 2 more seats, would it have had a different outcome?
Probably not. Insight's biggest competitor was the Prius, which put more capability (i.e. EV mode) into a car that cost about the same.

  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 02:28 PM   #29 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Arab, Alabama
Posts: 176

No nickname - '17 Chevrolet BoltEV Premiere
Thanks: 33
Thanked 27 Times in 16 Posts
IF it comes to America and IF the dealers don't immediately start their typical price gouging and IF it is widely available, I'll be visiting my VW dealer and trying one on :-)

I like it's looks and I really like it's economy.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 03:06 PM   #30 (permalink)
cfg83's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,864

1999 Saturn SW2 - '99 Saturn SW2 Wagon
Team Saturn
90 day: 40.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 439
Thanked 528 Times in 355 Posts
MetroMPG -

Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
This car begs the question: if Honda's first generation Insight had been a little longer with 2 more seats, would it have had a different outcome?
I would say yes. My minimum requirement was as much useful storage as a CRX. Two more seats, even in a 2+2 configuration, would have made the Insight a lot more attractive to me.



What's your EPA MPG? Go Here and find out!
American Solar Energy Society
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Project: Rebuilding an '01 Honda Insight as a nonhybrid Fabio Hybrids 158 01-12-2013 12:59 PM
Kawasaki starts promoting its bikes' MPG ratings - best = 70 mpg MetroMPG Motorcycles / Scooters 35 09-10-2010 12:41 AM
News: VW to unveil 70 mpg (US) Golf diesel hybrid MetroMPG Hybrids 27 06-29-2010 08:50 AM
TopGear Ecomods a VW Rabbit to 70 MPG SVOboy EcoModder Blog Discussion 0 02-25-2009 04:30 PM
Click and Clack puzzler: SUV or Hybrid? A Familial, MPG Conundrum! MetroMPG General Efficiency Discussion 0 12-20-2007 02:09 PM

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com