12-03-2009, 10:12 AM
|
#21 (permalink)
|
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Maynard, MA Eaarth
Posts: 7,907
Thanks: 3,475
Thanked 2,950 Times in 1,844 Posts
|
I think that it would be better as an BEV, or a plug in serial hybrid: eliminate the ultra-fancy 7-speed dual clutch transmission it currently has and increase the size of the electric motor, and use the 800cc diesel engine (or a smaller version of it!) to generate power to charge the battery. A bigger battery would be good, too.
The aero drag could be improved with (at least partial) rear wheel skirts, and a longer, slightly more tapered rear -- the "shoulders" should slope downwards (I think), etc.
|
|
|
|
 Today
|
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
|
|
12-03-2009, 10:52 AM
|
#22 (permalink)
|
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: belgium
Posts: 663
Thanks: 14
Thanked 61 Times in 44 Posts
|
sorry posted to soon
__________________
aerˇoˇdyˇnamˇics: the science of passing gass
*i can coast for miles and miles and miles*
|
|
|
|
|
12-03-2009, 11:46 AM
|
#23 (permalink)
|
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 593
Thanks: 106
Thanked 114 Times in 72 Posts
|
Looks slick, though the interior (on the concept model anyway) has a look that won't age well, when actual people start actually climbing in and out of it and using it as the utility that cars are.
__________________
Work From Home mod has saved more fuel than everything else put together.
|
|
|
|
|
12-03-2009, 12:14 PM
|
#24 (permalink)
|
|
Wanderer
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 90
Thanks: 20
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
|
Subaru did the active grill block back in 86 too bad it never got past the concept.
kind of sad it's still only on a concept car.
nice find!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by bgd73
Legends are legends after all..
|
|
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Sorrow Six Star For This Useful Post:
|
|
|
12-03-2009, 01:03 PM
|
#25 (permalink)
|
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 261
Thanks: 0
Thanked 36 Times in 22 Posts
|
Yeah that 70 mpg number is a real snafu!
This thing could break 100 mpg EASILY.
If TDIs with over twice the displacement and vehicle weight can crack 60 mpg without breaking much of a sweat than 70 mpg with this thing would be disastrously disappointing. If somehow VW is listening, I want mine with ~1.3L engine and ~100 HP. I will give up 10 mpg for some serious driving fun.
I WANT.
|
|
|
|
|
12-03-2009, 01:31 PM
|
#26 (permalink)
|
|
In Lean Burn Mode
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 1,536
Thanks: 1,295
Thanked 591 Times in 381 Posts
|
WOW Nice find, drool.
VW is all over it. I like everything about it. Other manufacters need to make notes.
__________________
Pressure Gradient Force
The Positive Side of the Number Line
|
|
|
|
|
12-03-2009, 02:13 PM
|
#27 (permalink)
|
|
Batman Junior
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,527
Thanks: 4,078
Thanked 6,976 Times in 3,612 Posts
|
This car begs the question: if Honda's first generation Insight had been a little longer with 2 more seats, would it have had a different outcome?
|
|
|
|
|
12-03-2009, 02:17 PM
|
#28 (permalink)
|
|
Wannabe greenie
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Yorba Linda, CA
Posts: 1,098
Thanks: 5
Thanked 53 Times in 40 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG
This car begs the question: if Honda's first generation Insight had been a little longer with 2 more seats, would it have had a different outcome?
|
Probably not. Insight's biggest competitor was the Prius, which put more capability (i.e. EV mode) into a car that cost about the same. |
|
|
|
|
12-03-2009, 02:28 PM
|
#29 (permalink)
|
|
EcoModding Apprentice
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Arab, Alabama
Posts: 176
Thanks: 33
Thanked 27 Times in 16 Posts
|
IF it comes to America and IF the dealers don't immediately start their typical price gouging and IF it is widely available, I'll be visiting my VW dealer and trying one on :-)
I like it's looks and I really like it's economy.
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
12-03-2009, 03:06 PM
|
#30 (permalink)
|
|
Pokémoderator
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,864
Thanks: 439
Thanked 532 Times in 358 Posts
|
MetroMPG -
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG
This car begs the question: if Honda's first generation Insight had been a little longer with 2 more seats, would it have had a different outcome?
|
I would say yes. My minimum requirement was as much useful storage as a CRX. Two more seats, even in a 2+2 configuration, would have made the Insight a lot more attractive to me.
CarloSW2
|
|
|
|
|
