Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > EcoModding Central
Register Now
 Register Now

Reply  Post New Thread
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-01-2010, 03:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
My Goal: 35 MPG All Day
RandomFact314's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 684

1NZ-FE (Year 1) - '05 Scion xA RS 2.0
Team Toyota
Last 3: 34.02 mpg (US)

1NZ-FE (Year 2) - '05 Scion xA RS 2.0
90 day: 33.32 mpg (US)

1NZ-FE (Year 3) - '05 Scion xA RS 2.0
90 day: 35.32 mpg (US)

1NZ-FE (Year 4) - '05 Scion xA RS 2.0
90 day: 34 mpg (US)

1NZ-FE (Year 5) - '05 Scion xA RS 2.0
90 day: 26.87 mpg (US)

1NZ-FE (Years 6&7) - '05 Scion xA RS 2.0
90 day: 26.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 39
Thanked 35 Times in 24 Posts
The obvious can pass your mind sometimes

My grandfather is always hounding my tail b/c he says "taking the spare and jack out of your car is stupid, you will wish you had it when you blow a tire"

This may be true for trips but not for everyday driving...

Reason: I am on HIS insurance and I pay more to have road side assistance...

If anyone here is scared of taking the spare out, do you have road side? if so, now you should feel comfortable taking that extra 20/25 lbs out of the car.

This should be obvious but some may not even think about it (like my g-pa)

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

Old 08-01-2010, 04:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
gascort's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Posts: 548

Gascort RIP - '93 Ford Escort Wagon
90 day: 43.01 mpg (US)

WifesCruze - '11 Chevrolet Cruze LT
90 day: 31.1 mpg (US)
Thanks: 14
Thanked 24 Times in 16 Posts
I disagree wholeheartedly. Not to be rude, but I think the fuel you save is insignificant in the grand scheme of things...

*time to wait for wrecker - YOU pay this, late for work, getting somewhere, or whatever, sometimes an hour or more

Other things you don't pay for but we all do...
Gas the wrecker uses to get to you and get you to tire shop or your home
Emissions from wrecker
Traffic backups from onlookers at the wrecker hitching your car up

I'm all about going for it and doing whatever to save, but this idea feels like a loser in the long run. If you're doing it for the environment, it's obviously bad, and if you're doing it for money savings, I can mail you a check for $2.00. That's probably all you'll save over a couple years.
Gasoline, Wind, Solar, Gravity Hybrid-to-be! http://www.scientificmethodfueleconomy.blogspot.com/
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to gascort For This Useful Post:
Piwoslaw (08-02-2010), Weather Spotter (08-03-2010)
Old 08-01-2010, 04:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
insane in the propane
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: palm beach
Posts: 58

Cloud Car - '96 Dodge Stratus ES
90 day: 39.15 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3
Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts
yeah the time you spend waiting is the killer. it can be at little at 10 mins, or up to a few hours, as i once experienced.

to me, it's not worth the time waiting, and i am about as cheap as they come in regards to saving fuel. i always carry an aluminum spare, jack, tire iron, air pump, and a patch kit. it adds extra weight, but 99% of the time i can patch a tyre while it is still on the car, and then keep on going like nothing happened. usually in 10 mins or less.
96 stratus "es" v6 auto-stick
supplementary propane injection
injector kill switch, alternator kill switch
Charging system voltage increased to 15.5V
secondary and tertiary 12v batteries in the trunk
on-board battery charger
lights converted to led's
potentiometer controlled tps for ign timing
welded straight pipe in place of cat-cons
removed egr
3 inch body drop
90psi fuel rail & -50% low volume injectors
run 15% diesel 85% gas
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 04:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
T-100 Road Warrior
BamZipPow's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,895

BZP T-100 (2010) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 24 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2011) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 23.66 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2009) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 19.01 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2012) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 25.45 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2013) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 25.79 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2014) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.18 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2015) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.85 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2016) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 17.62 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2017) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.78 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2018) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.19 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 current (2019) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

BZP T-100 (2020) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Thanks: 3,370
Thanked 1,352 Times in 941 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to BamZipPow
Yer better off just keeping yer gas tank at 1/3rd to half full...
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 05:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
Ryland's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Western Wisconsin
Posts: 3,904

honda cb125 - '74 Honda CB 125 S1
90 day: 79.71 mpg (US)

green wedge - '81 Commuter Vehicles Inc. Commuti-Car

Blue VX - '93 Honda Civic VX
Thanks: 867
Thanked 432 Times in 353 Posts
If you always drive in areas that have cell service with a charged cell phone then sure, but once a tow truck shows up to help you with your flat tire then what do you do? if you had a spare in your truck they would change it for you, now they either tow you back to your house.
I got a flat once while out of state with no spare, it was 10pm on a saturday night, lucky for us the tow truck driver lived only half an hour drive away and took us to his house where he sold us a used tire and wheel, otherwise we would have had the joy of hanging out till the fallowing monday morning for a shop to open up that could sell us a set of new tires, if we had a spare with us we could have fixed it our selves and saved 3 hours, if the tow truck driver wasn't so nice it would have cost us 36 hours.
I also use my jack all the time to look under my car and the cars of other people to see if a wheel bearing is going out, to unstick stuck parking brakes, to fix a tire that had a bulge in it and caused the car to shake violently and to fix the exhaust.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 05:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
Frank Lee's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,633

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,550
Thanked 3,425 Times in 2,151 Posts
I know my luck... it usually ain't good. But I was able to go several years with no spare/tools and I had no bad tire incident come up either. If you know your track record- how many flats have you suffered?- you can come up with sort of an idea of what the odds are you will be inconvenienced with a flat. For me, when I have really good or new tires on, I simply don't have flats. I just haven't had a problem with getting flats from running over sharp objects. Now, I have had many flats, even blowouts, but that's when I run old, weatherchecked, and/or bald tires. THEN I make sure to have a good spare with tools on board. Changing out those flats has been a very minor inconvenience to me, so it's been well worth it to run those crap tires.

  Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 05:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
Left Lane Ecodriver
RobertSmalls's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA
Posts: 2,258

Prius C - '12 Toyota Prius C
Thanks: 79
Thanked 283 Times in 196 Posts
My tires are special order only, so when I'm more than 50mi from home, the temporary spare won't do me a lot of good. I carry a full-sized spare when I carry one at all.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 07:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
See ya at the next light!
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 67

Slowest. Altima. Ever. - '05 Nissan Altima SE
90 day: 45.91 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
I think you should keep the spare and jack in the car. Better to have it and not need it 99% of the time than to need it once and not have it. If you really need to save on weight you could stop 4 gallons short of filling up. 25 lbs of weight is trivial.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 07:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
euromodder's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Belgium
Posts: 4,665

GasDwarf - '13 Volkswagen up! EcoFuel CNG
Thanks: 176
Thanked 637 Times in 504 Posts
OTOH, I've had only 4 cripling flat tyres in some 600.000 km.
Two of these were caused by vandalism.

Discounting the latter, that's roughly 1 cripling flat every 300.000 km / 200.000 miles ... or 11 years !
GasDwarf's fuel consumption :
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2010, 09:47 PM   #10 (permalink)
A madman
brucey's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: WV
Posts: 1,012

Pequod - '17 Subaru Outback
90 day: 22.79 mpg (US)
Thanks: 70
Thanked 179 Times in 96 Posts
Send a message via AIM to brucey
I also say I'm in the "It's silly to go without it" side. 25 lbs of weight isn't even noticeable. Unless you're in a fuel competition (or racing) I see no reason to go without a full size spare. I once had a random, unplanned, trip into the great unknown and got a flat tire. Having to take it off, leave your car un-attended in no mans land, and roll it a couple miles (since no cars are around and there is no cell service) to a shop and having them plug it, then having to either pay 20$ for a taxi/hitchhike a ride WHILE carrying a tire OR rolling the tire back (I paid for a taxi) just isn't worth any fuel savings at all. Or monetary savings.

I'll never save that much extra fuel that was used by that ONE flat tire by taking the spare out.

If you want to save weight, just get rid of the asphault in the car. It's only purpose is to make the metal sound thicker while adding a lot of weight to the car. Most cars have this stuff in them, and it's usually in the area of 100~200 lbs you can strip out.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Best spark plugs / wires with FE in mind? noopy7 EcoModding Central 12 10-29-2010 04:18 PM
Ney guy with a Different goal in mind. Drcygnus Introductions 11 07-27-2010 11:43 AM
CA->Fed VX conversion won't pass smog :( mango EcoModding Central 7 07-22-2010 02:53 AM
Driving with Engine Efficiency in Mind bikeracer Hypermiling / EcoDriver's Ed 16 10-15-2009 11:57 PM
Driving with FE in mind, hard on emissions system? Chris D. General Efficiency Discussion 5 03-27-2008 01:32 AM

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com