The Old Empires' plan to cut out Tesla

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Originally Posted by freebeard

Why can't they call a tentacle a tentacle?

Heck, why not call it an iTentacle. Everything sounds cute when you inappropriately use a lowercase "i" in front of the noun.

[jamesqf]

It's not a shades-of-Cthulhu tentacle, it's a nice, friendly elephant trunk: Watch an elephant pick up a tortilla chip with her trunk

[botsapper]

There is a very special niche for Asian manga 'curiosities.' Shokushu goukan, a genre that was made famous by well-known ukiyo-e painter and woodblock printer, Katsushika Hokusai. His work has influenced many later creatives - Pietro Mascagni, Félicien Rops, Auguste Rodin, Louis Aucoc, Fernand Khnopff and especially the works of Pablo Picasso.

Google for only for educational purposes, The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife.

[freebeard]

Or you could crowdsource the task: https://www.reddit.com/domain/pinktentacle.com/

Originally Posted by botsapper

The global group will set the software and physical standards for the CCS specification, and working on the upgrades from the current 50kw to their planned 350 kw maximum spec. This system will also be their next zero-emission infrastructure for North America as well. This proprietary and exclusive network that will NOT connect to Tesla EVs.

https://electrek.co/2017/01/10/tesla...rooftop-solar/

Tesla reveals more details about ‘Gigafactory 1’: Model 3 battery pack, largest rooftop solar array in the world (70MW), & more

Meanwhile Tesla is making Nevada sunshine into 18650 cells. Right Now.

[sendler]

Tesla has even decided to reinvent the cell size to 2170.

[elhigh]

^^
I'd be curious to know what the max charge rate is on the new 2170s. So far all we really know about them is their size. I expect the power/volume ratio has taken a nice jump, as well as the power/$ ratio.

[sendler]

EV cell design generally places the emphasis on energy density and cycle life. The packs are so large that burst power is not an issue.

[botsapper]

The Empires hope their CCS 350kW will jump over Tesla's current 145 Superchargers.
At the 2017 CES, in a guerilla-action Tesla surprises everyone. An independent EV charging station manufacturer and charging network operator unveiled a 400 kW DC fast-charging infrastructure! Chargepoint displayed their system with a Tesla-type adapter!

https://electrek.co/2017/01/05/charg...tesla-adapter/

Elon Musk teases about a 'Supercharger V3' and jokes "A mere 350 kW, what are you referring to, a children's toy?" He is planning to have greater than 350kw charging system and a robotic snake cable for autonomous charging at these stations. Explains why he is abandoning the 'battery swap' idea because he will have the capability to provide plenty kW's in a few charging minutes.

https://electrek.co/2016/12/24/tesla...ack-elon-musk/

[oil pan 4]

I never much cared for the battery swap thing.

[freebeard]

I could see a 1920s Duesenberg or Rolls with a Wolftronics planetary gearbox, Siemens motor, Teslas battery pack — and a secondary pack in the strap-on trunk that was as popular back in the day as wearing an onion on your belt.

Here's a comment by jighardy on the EVTV website.

I initially pricked up my ears on this but on reflection my opinion is that this is smoke and mirrors with nothing new or surprising

* According to Wikipedia, VW are committed to spend “$2 billion in the U.S. over the next 10 years on CCS and other charging infrastructure” as part of the settlement of the diesel gaming fiasco

* Volkswagen, General Motors, BMW, Daimler, Ford and Hyundai have been committed to CCS since 2011

* The current CCS standard is I believe about 50 – 100 kW depending on voltage. CCS have already announced an intention to increase this to 350kW over the next few years.

In other words this is probably just part of the charger wars. It is 8 years behind Tesla and to my mind just reinforces the half-hearted uptake of EVs by the Western manufacturers. Nissan (the EV mass market leader) seem to be committed to Chademo although that could change.

MEANWHILE CHINA already has electric bus fast charging stations reportedly operating over 350kW: https://electrek.co/2015/12/07/china...ers-at-360-kw/

Personally I’d like to see CCS go the way of Betamax because of it’s parentage (foot-dragging traditional automakers in Detroit and Germany). Plus the plug is an aesthetic monstrosity

Truth and Consequences - EVTV Motor Verks