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[XYZ]

Originally Posted by Econoguru

This has been a great thread. George is such a great sport. I am a novice when it comes to understanding some of the theory behind these methods, but to fend off so many people on a website which is membered by people who understand that what George is telling them is not possible is incredible. George is an absolute master of the yarn. He is the modern day snake oil salesman.

Nah, it's not snake oil he's selling, it's unicorn oil. Much slicker than snake oil...

[XYZ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by XYZ
Now you say “in addition to not taking any chances with the warranty”. But you steadfastly insisted that nothing you produce or install would void a warranty. So why the precaution? That too is contradictory.
Besides, your Aveo is a 2008. This is 2014. The five year warranty is expired. So who do you think you are kidding with the excuses and rationalizations?
#73: You just said that you aren’t taking any chances with the warranty (which no longer exists). The contradiction is glaring. Why should we believe you?

George replies:

The one not taking chances with the warranty is my wife. It's her car and believe it or not women have shoes and the vote. I explained the situation and if it doesn't make sense to you, join the club, it doesn't make total sense to me either. In fact, I feel untrusted. But she is my wife and it is her car so it doesn't have to make sense, I just have to abide by her wishes. I think she is holding out for 100,000 km.

There is no warranty left on a 2008 Aveo. This is 2014. The five year warranty is expired.

You are caught in another lie. That excuse is not believable. So now you blame your wife. And you can't go anywhere near your cars until summer. So you want us to "be patient" and endure many more months of your daily infomercial broadcast.

So you expect US to believe you?

Poor George.

[Frank Lee]

Originally Posted by GeorgeWiseman

Right! The carburetor was a 2150 Motorcraft, which turned out to be significant because it can be a very efficient carburetor, and the engine had excellent power so in spite of the high gearing, it operated pretty normally. It wasn't 'gutless' at low speeds, but I never had to worry about smoking my tires because it simply wouldn't do it.

All the 'performance' was at high speed (60+ mph).
A short story: I once went from a dead stop to 5 miles away in 2.5 minutes. The guy riding with me never rode with me again, and frankly, I never drove that fast again either; that was too hairy (think Hot Rod Lincoln).
He looked at his watch at the stop sign and said "we have 5 minutes to make the bank" I said "we'll make it" and held it on the floor for about 3 miles, which was a slight downhill straightaway. He looked at his watch again as we passed the 40 mph sign coming into town.



This is the 1974 GMC pickup my brother and I used to build the system described in my 'Extreme Mileage, 101' book; which I will make available for free as part of my ecomodder contribution. It started as a 1/2 ton with a 252 ci engine, and an automatic transmission (Carburetor Enhancer book). I converted it into a 3/4 ton with a 292 ci engine and a 4 speed manual transmission (Extreme Mileage, 101 book).

Did you see how George conveniently forgot to address all the points I brought up about the impossible 32-36mpg '63 Ford, and just kept piling on the B.S.?

He probably has as much success as he does because Uhmericans are famous for their A.D.D.

I didn't forget.

[sarguy01]

Originally Posted by Frank Lee

Did you see how George conveniently forgot to address all the points I brought up about the impossible 32-36mpg '63 Ford, and just kept piling on the B.S.?

He probably has as much success as he does because Uhmericans are famous for their A.D.D.

I didn't forget.

I didn't forget either. I was waiting for the 2:1 explanation.

I think he was too busy defending his incorrect math, EFIE, plastic gas cans that increase fuel mileage and cars with warranties that don't have warranties anymore.

(Disclaimer: I say his A/F math is incorrect, but mine could very well be incorrect too...I will gladly admit if I am wrong...)

[MetroMPG]

Originally Posted by GeorgeWiseman

The Aveo ....

Thanks for posting that info.

Diving back in to read the rest of what's going on here...

[elhigh]

Originally Posted by XYZ

Nah, it's not snake oil he's selling, it's unicorn oil. Much slicker than snake oil...

The neat thing about unicorn oil is that when fractionally refined in the presence of water at a 200:1 ratio, it produces a highly energetic fuel that delivers 30% better fuel efficiency even in 50-year-old cars, reduces carbon emissions, reverses hair loss and makes women swoon.

Yeah, baby. Swwwwoooooonnnn.

[Fat Charlie]

Don't forget that one drop of it can lower your cholesterol and soothe aching joints!

[Superfuelgero]

I looked at it, but they didn't carry it in the correct weight. link

[elhigh]

Originally Posted by xntrx

I looked at it, but they didn't carry it in the correct weight. link

That's the fresh-squeezed stuff. If you get the "grovestand" variety it also works as AT fluid.

You gotta water it down, if you try to pour that into your fuel tank your engine will explode in an orgasm of power and thrifty sex appeal.

[GeorgeWiseman]

Originally Posted by jakobnev

You'll forgive me for assuming .442 instead, i hope

You see, at 2760rpm load doesn't rise as fast with throttle opening as it does near idle..

Again, this is a common misunderstanding. The fact is that the throttle plate has a lot less to do with VE that people intuitively think. See my previous post #129.

In the meantime, no one has to 'assume' any more. I've calculated the VE of this engine in these conditions.

Volumetric Efficiency calculator
Note that this calculator shows the Aveo's VE to be 79.999%
Givens: CFM=62.37, CID=97.64, RPM=2760