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Old 08-05-2015, 10:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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When the engine is killed with a kill switch (no key movement), and the car isn't removed from gear position, rather the clutch is fully pressed, I see no safety issue at all. Now, keying off at that exact moment a deer jumps out- then you might as well be driving a Cobalt.

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Old 08-05-2015, 10:55 AM   #12 (permalink)
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She noticed me EOCing my Civic and flipped out. Says don't do that with a date in the car. Accuses me of being cheap.

Previously, my Mom noticed me EOCing, but didn't flip out as badly as my sister.

How do your non-hypermiling family and friends react?

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First, makes me glad I have 3 brothers and no sister.

Youngest brother (#4);

Averages 25 mpg in his Tacoma (manual)work truck. Also owns a Prius.

Next youngest (#3);

Drives a Pathfinder and gets atrocious mileage, retired govt welder, house paid for, buys cheap (or is given) cars and drives them until they can not be driven anymore.

Oldest, drives junk just like #3 and he can't drive worth crap.

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Both drive Cadillacs and compete for best mileage. I think their best was 33 mpg.

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Old 08-05-2015, 12:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
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re: OP, this isn't meant as an insult, just an insight. It sounds like an insecure person who would give a flying crap, he/she might want to look into why such superfluous opinions matter to them at all, then tell the person with the petty judgmental opinions to go to pound sand.
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Old 08-05-2015, 12:33 PM   #14 (permalink)
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First, makes me glad I have 3 brothers and no sister.

Youngest brother (#4);

Averages 25 mpg in his Tacoma (manual)work truck. Also owns a Prius.

Next youngest (#3);

Drives a Pathfinder and gets atrocious mileage, retired govt welder, house paid for, buys cheap (or is given) cars and drives them until they can not be driven anymore.

Oldest, drives junk just like #3 and he can't drive worth crap.

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Both drive Cadillacs and compete for best mileage. I think their best was 33 mpg.

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In defense of your #3 brother, his driving IS so worth a crap!
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I started driving 55 MPH on the freeway back when that was actually the speed limit, that would have been around thirteen years ago. I tried pulse-and-glide for a while, but it did not seem to improve my tank-to-tank averages. The only comment that I ever had with a passenger was when someone was trying to merge, the guy asked if I was going to let him in.

"I am driving 55 in a 65 and everyone else is driving 75."

"Good point."

However...

During seemingly civilized conversations when we were simply talking about driving, I would mention what speed I drove, and people would fanatically insist that driving slower was more dangerous than driving faster.

"That may be, but I would rather get into an accident at 55 MPH than 75."
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Old 08-05-2015, 01:03 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Answering the OP: my family tolerates it and acquaintances usually take pause when they realize I shaved thousands of dollars off my gasoline expenses.

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I flip out when people EOC coast too. IMESHO you have to be brain dead to shut off almost all of your car's safety features while actively driving on a public road.
I agree with those who answered this already. If we set up the car and do the technique properly we lose no safety features. Not even for an instant. Two mods are really useful to enhance this: the injector kill switch means you do not key off, and a brake vacuum booster means you'll have an abundance of capacity even on two mile long, fast hills.
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They don't even notice. I shut the engine off with a kill switch on the shift lever, so no movements that trigger somebody's attention. Bump starts are smooth enough that they don't notice. Occasionally somebody notices the clunk when the power door locks relock the already locked doors.

On the highway, I normally use DWL. That puts the passengers to sleep. Every time. Then nobody notices anything.
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Old 08-05-2015, 01:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
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in the event of a panic stop bumpstart into 3rd gear.

what safety features are you losing? wdb I really would like to know.

a Tacoma is a dangerous machine you should be afraid to drive it engine on.
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Occasionally somebody notices the clunk when the power door locks relock the already locked doors.
It does that sometimes. Must be something with OnStar.
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Sometimes my Mom will gently suggest that I go the speed limit. Sometimes I say this is the speed I go, and sometimes I *sort of* oblige and bump it up a few mph.

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