Tailgating gone bad!!!

[bestclimb]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Recently I was passed on the soft left shoulder of I-5. The thing was, traffic was stopped due to the freeway being completely shut down by a truck\trailer\boat wreck. The guy behind didn't like that I only crawled along at idle to close any gap that would develop in front of me. Over the next 2hrs, he only gained the 1 car length from passing me. Secretly, I wanted a cop to pull him over, or for him to pick up a nail in his tire.

Watched a guy do this in a stopped highway. then I saw that he was stopping when he got up to a car. then would sit a while and let a bunch of cars pass him as he sat on the side of the road. Then he would startup and drive along passed the stopped cars till he got back up to the car that marked "his spot"

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

A Webster's defination is not a legal defination, of course a court would hear the case. The video, just like so many videos posted of "victims" of police brutality, starts 1/2 way or more into the episode. As the lady admits in the posting she had been in front of the truck for 3 minutes. And couldn't get over becuase of the trucks. Maybe is for those 3 minutes she was driving exactly the same speed as the slower truck you see in the video. Then she sped up, started recording, and got her money shot.
Why do you think news agencies blur faces when just recording facts in a public place? Or they get a release from those they filmed.

You're rationalizing (unsuccessfully). The words posted by you were

posting up to social media for no other reason then to shame the guy is pretty much the definition of defamation.

You didn't further qualify the statement. Regardless, the legal definition of defamation relies on the English definition, which requires that a person bring false testimony against someone else with the intent to discredit them. There isn't an interpretation of defamation that can be fulfilled by sharing a recording of true events.

Where the video begins and the actions of the woman filming are of no import when determining the fault of the truck wreck. The woman could have been doing 5 mph for 6 hrs in the fast lane all while giving the truck driver the bird, and he still remains 100% liable for his actions and the resulting crash.

There can be no logical argument brought against this fact. Any disagreement is purely emotional. I can sympathize with the truck driver because I have been that angry at other drivers before, and I have fantasized passing inconsiderate drivers while leaving them in a cloud of my smoke, but this is not a reasonable action and I cannot blame inconsiderate people for my feelings of anger.

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My cousin and I were taking a Ford flathead to and old time mechanic who had lots of NOS parts and decades of experience. We were stopped by a flagman and road construction. A Firebird goes flying by us, him and anything else at about 65 MPH, missing us by a couple of feet in a turn on the road. The three of us looked at each other dumb founded by the sheer stupidity.

regards
Mech

[elhigh]

Originally Posted by Chuck.

What they are saying at the F150 forum

Redneck roadrage / Instant Karma - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

First page of comments looks pretty evenhanded, leaning toward "Dumba$$ went looking for trouble and found it, and it isn't the first time."

[elhigh]

Originally Posted by Frank Lee

Mr. White needs to get feedback from others outside of the lawr enforcement system that they disapprove of his actions. It could be instructive for Mr. White to be on the receiving end of his favorite gestures, perhaps leading to some much needed behavior modification.

It's already been pointed out that the guy has been in trouble for this sort of thing already. Knowing that, do you think he gives a care for what the public or the law have to say? I strongly doubt it. At best he behaves within the law's parameters because the alternative, when he gets caught, is expensive and/or painful. I don't see shaming, public or otherwise, having any effect on this dude. In that case you couldn't call it "shaming," he'd be having too much fun, prancing up and down waving his "I'm an @$$hole driver!" sign.

And giving people the finger, of course.

[Frank Lee]

With 2 million (and growing) views of his idiocy, he might notice/care.

[campisi]

Originally Posted by XYZ

Frank, your broadcasting the guy's name, address and phone number goes beyond "public shaming". That's going too far and it amounts to your being a provocateur, or a wanna-be cop, or rabble rouser. The guy acted recklessly and he will get what he deserves, sooner or later. Actually, as the driver of the other car realized, he DID get what he deserved when he spun out of control and damaged his truck - mostly because he was focused upon revenge, illustrated in his distracting himself from his driving, by giving the finger. If he hadn't been so PO'd he might have driven off with no incident.

Someone earlier on in this thread mentioned "karma". Live and let live. If you invoke retribution you will attract it, you will be obsessed with it, and you will receive it in return.

Agree.

[Hersbird]

Quoted from the lady posting the video, "Some people have commented and told me I should do the ads on here to make money, and as of now, it's on!!! I'd like to thank all the fine folks on G+ that helped me out. "
So now she is making commercial use of the video w/o a release from the guy. No I'm sure I'm just rationalizing (unsuccessfully) her going to get sued.

[bestclimb]

How effective is shame as a modifier of behavior?

My hope for this event is that the fool in the truck learned a lesson and, more importantly, that others will learn the same lesson without the risk to other road users.

It seems that the collective ire for rode raged drivers is focused on the unskilled, idiot that lost control of himself and his truck. Hopefully it will bring the issue of road rage more to light and make the calling out of people who put others at risk more acceptable.

also Schadenfreude.

[XYZ]

Originally Posted by elhigh

It's already been pointed out that the guy has been in trouble for this sort of thing already. Knowing that, do you think he gives a care for what the public or the law have to say? I strongly doubt it. At best he behaves within the law's parameters because the alternative, when he gets caught, is expensive and/or painful.

Isn't that the whole point of having vehicular traffic laws and the enforcement of them? I would expect that the outcome for him will be both expensive and painful, and deservedly so.

I don't see shaming, public or otherwise, having any effect on this dude. In that case you couldn't call it "shaming," he'd be having too much fun, prancing up and down waving his "I'm an @$$hole driver!" sign.

No, he might not. He damaged his truck, and according to news reports, he's now in trouble with the law, having been arrested. Being "arrested" literally means he's been slowed or deterred from continuing his prior behaviour. The law imposes that impediment on him without any further punishment from an outraged public. And he must appear in court and/or pay a fine.

And giving people the finger, of course.

Well, Mr. White and Frank Lee are on record as being of the same mindset about doing that, namely exhibiting an obscene gesture as a sign of retribution. Mr. White actually did it, and Frank is on record as craving to do it in return, in retribution.

Road rage? We all become angered at times and we think about acting out on impulse. Some people act upon their emotions, and some don't.

That indicates the level of emotional maturity of the driver. Unfortunately emotional maturity has little to do with anyone's chronological age.