Tailgating gone bad!!!

[XYZ]

Originally Posted by bestclimb

How effective is shame as a modifier of behavior?

Good question!

It's a very effective way of maintaining social order in a small community where there is no law imposed by government. It's primarily meant to impose social sanctions in lieu of punishment by law for illegal acts. If everyone in your local community disapproves of your actions, that sends a strong message for you to change your ways. But not if you live in Minnesota, and the offender lives in Florida...

My hope for this event is that the fool in the truck learned a lesson and, more importantly, that others will learn the same lesson without the risk to other road users.

I agree, and I hope the recorded video promotes that.

It seems that the collective ire for rode raged drivers is focused on the unskilled, idiot that lost control of himself and his truck. Hopefully it will bring the issue of road rage more to light and make the calling out of people who put others at risk more acceptable.

Yes. We only need to learn from his bad behaviour not to do the same, or try to avoid it - not pillory him for it.

also Schadenfreude.

Ah yes, schadenfreude. It is often the root of envy, mocking derision and marginally sadistic behaviour.

[Xist]

Sometimes I think about making foam rubber spikes, using metallic paint, and mounting them to my bumper.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

Quoted from the lady posting the video, "Some people have commented and told me I should do the ads on here to make money, and as of now, it's on!!! I'd like to thank all the fine folks on G+ that helped me out. "
So now she is making commercial use of the video w/o a release from the guy. No I'm sure I'm just rationalizing (unsuccessfully) her going to get sued.

Exploiting a situation by reporting the true events for the purpose of making money; a la the local news.

Still no defamation, and still no laws broken.

[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Exploiting a situation by reporting the true events for the purpose of making money; a la the local news.

Still no defamation, and still no laws broken.

Not criminal laws, (although I still think the cell phone law was broken but who cares a recent study showed 25% of accidents involved cell phones) but you are not allowed to profit from video without a model's release or masking the identity of those in the video with the exception of a public figure or if you go some place you know they would normally be filming that you purchase a ticket to like say a sporting event. Do you think shows like candid camera don't get the permission of everybody envolved even though often they are filmed on the public street?

Add: almost everywhere I read about this videos the opinions are equally divided, would you really want to put a 50/50 issue in front of a jury?

[UltArc]

Yes. 50/50 on a jury is a mistrial.

[Superfuelgero]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Exploiting a situation by reporting the true events for the purpose of making money; a la the local news.

Still no defamation, and still no laws broken.

Correct on defamation. Would still qualify for Publicity though if a profit is made and his face isn't blurred out. Would be counter productive through, since this will die out otherwise.

[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by UltArc

Yes. 50/50 on a jury is a mistrial.

I see in Florida a civil trial is usually 6 members and needs to be unanimous. Many other states its just a simple majority in civil law. The burden of proof us much less though then a criminal trial. Still even if the lady "won" a trial like this she is a loser of time and money. Very similar to "wining" most road rage incidents.
You see, the way I look at it is, we are all a team out there on the road. The yahoo in the truck was obviously not part of the team that's easy to see, but this lady is not part of the team either. Watching the video, I don't think the guy was actually all that raged, he wasn't all that close and he started to calmly pass on the right until it seems he notices he is being filmed. Then he seems to be goofing off more then road raging. Either way, not part of the team. But she admits to pacing that truck beside her for 3 minutes at what appears to be below the speed limit. Why on earth do people drive on a relatively empty road side by side weather you are going fast or slow (slow in this case)? That's not being part of the team either. Operating a car using a cell phone as a handheld camera is much more complicated then making a call is also not being on the team. Can't we all just get along? Seems like you wanna talk Carma...

[Frank Lee]

You sure have developed a lot of theories without actual research. Just like 99% of Uhmericans.

[Frank Lee]

Here are the 55 mph speed limit signs at the start of the clip:
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8681...EP8zLM0g9w!2e0

And her speedometer at that time shows 56 mph.

But she admits to pacing that truck beside her for 3 minutes at what appears to be below the speed limit. Why on earth do people drive on a relatively empty road side by side weather you are going fast or slow (slow in this case)?

Well, her original text for the clip is gone, but I distinctly recall no mention of her "pacing" the F250. Her intention is to turn left off 41 at Hwy 75. Prior to the bridge there is a lane merging from the right- a good reason to be left- and two trucks in the right lane on the bridge that she OVERTAKES- definitely gotta be left for that.

"Three minutes" prior to filming plus under two minutes on the clip at 55 mph = about 4.5 miles over the entire incident, with less than two miles being covered during the entirety of the clip. Camping out in the left lane- hardly.

Here is right about even with where the F250 came to rest:
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8509...1b4lsEW10Q!2e0

Note the left turn lane, which she gets into.

[UltArc]

Originally Posted by UltArc

Yes. 50/50 on a jury is a mistrial.

Originally Posted by Hersbird

I see in Florida a civil trial is usually 6 members and needs to be unanimous. Many other states its just a simple majority in civil law. The burden of proof us much less though then a criminal trial. Still even if the lady "won" a trial like this she is a loser of time and money. Very similar to "wining" most road rage incidents.
You see, the way I look at it is, we are all a team out there on the road. The yahoo in the truck was obviously not part of the team that's easy to see, but this lady is not part of the team either. Watching the video, I don't think the guy was actually all that raged, he wasn't all that close and he started to calmly pass on the right until it seems he notices he is being filmed. Then he seems to be goofing off more then road raging. Either way, not part of the team. But she admits to pacing that truck beside her for 3 minutes at what appears to be below the speed limit. Why on earth do people drive on a relatively empty road side by side weather you are going fast or slow (slow in this case)? That's not being part of the team either. Operating a car using a cell phone as a handheld camera is much more complicated then making a call is also not being on the team. Can't we all just get along? Seems like you wanna talk Carma...

I thought this was a court case against her- that she defamed this good and honorable community figure.

That was the basis of my comment.

We all can just get along. But I often find myself doing more than the speed limit, say 59 mph, in a 55, passing cars doing 45-55. And often, some one whips up behind me in their old janky audi, civic, or datsun altima like they are hot crap, and is 3 inches from my rear end. I don't care how fast they fly- I am not going to waste my fuel, energy, and focus trying to speed even faster MYSELF and get around all the cars. They can suck it, pay attention and coast down while we all pass. If they were paying attention to the road, they would have slowed down while approaching, rather than realizing a few feet away. They didn't see me? Maybe they need their vision checked before getting back on the road. Sometimes people want to be reckless and drive crazy, and that is on them. But their ignorance will not disturb me.

Good weather is better than bad weather, whether or not you agree- no matter the karma you have, or your winning personality.