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Old 02-02-2020, 12:21 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Hey Freebeard, I looked long and hard and found the source that I originally mentioned. Since you wanted all of the numbers, have all of the numbers! I am not even making you click on any links! If you complain now it is only because it is clearly a hobby!

Garage Door Replacement: 97.5%
Manufactured Stone Veneer: 94.9%
Minor Kitchen Remodel | Midrange: 80.5%
Deck Addition | Wood: 75.6%
Siding Replacement: 75.6%
Entry Door Replacement | Steel: 74.9%
Window Replacement | Vinyl: 73.4%
Grand Entrance | Fiberglass: 71.9%
Window Replacement | Wood: 70.8%
Deck Addition | Composite: 69.1%
Roofing Replacement | Asphalt Shingles: 68.2%
Bath Remodel | Midrange: 67.2%
Bath Remodel | Universal Design: 62.5%
Major Kitchen Remodel | Midrange: 62.1%
Roofing Replacement | Metal: 60.9% -
Bathroom Addition | Midrange: 60.6%
Bath Remodel | Upscale: 60.2%
Major Kitchen Remodel | Upscale: 59.7%
Master Suite Addition | Midrange: 59.4%
Bathroom Addition | Upscale: 58.1%
Backyard Patio: 55.2%
Master Suite Addition | Upscale: 50.4%

It shows Entry Door Replacement | Steel at 96.6% in 2014 and 101.8% in 2015, so I probably saw this 2014 - 2015. I do not have any idea why the data differs from Zillow, but this is pretty thorough. It breaks up the U.S. map into nine regions and then you can select major cities--if you sign up.

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This site compares average cost for 30 popular remodeling projects with the value those projects retain at resale in 100 U.S. markets. Check out this year's trends and how they compare to prior years.
https://www.remodeling.hw.net/cost-vs-value/2019/

Edit: Zillow doesn't collect their own data, they use hw.net, so why are the results different?
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Hey Freebeard, I looked long and hard and found the source that I originally mentioned.
xist, I hope you did it for your own satisfaction, as I haven't cared since.
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Since you wanted all of the numbers, have all of the numbers!
You are ascribing intent here. All I wanted was to know if the per cent figure is sunk cost/value or value/sunk cost.
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I am not even making you click on any links! If you complain now it is only because it is clearly a hobby!
Challenge accepted. "You've got my whole fallacy wrong" — Marshall McCluhan in Annie Hall.
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I don't see solar panels on that list. I've heard those might be worthwhile. (which makes sense, because they earn tangible $ every month)
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I have no idea what a 'lue of energy' is:


https://fsmedia.imgix.net/c3/36/f4/2...oof-costs.jpeg

I'd consider the non-solar glass tile alone.
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I wonder how many people would pay extra for a solar home. The only source that I have is Meet Kevin. He is a big fan of electric cars and solar, but said that panels only made sense if you plan on living there long enough for them to pay for themselves. People do not want to do the math on whether a solar home is worthwhile and they do not want the extra complication.

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Installing solar panels [...] can potentially increase the home’s value by up to 4.1% more than comparable homes with no solar panels, according to recent solar research done by Zillow — or an additional $9,274 for the median-valued home in the U.S.
Zillow says the ten states with the highest solar premiums are:
  1. New Jersey: 9.9% or $32,281
  2. Pennsylvania: 4.9% or $8,589
  3. North Carolina: 4.8% or $8,996
  4. Louisiana: 4.9% or $7,037
  5. Washington: 4.1% or $15,916
  6. Florida: 4% $9,454
  7. Hawaii: 4% or $24,526
  8. Maryland: 3.8% or $10,976
  9. New York: 3.6% or $10,981
  10. South Carolina: 3.5% or $5,866
All dollar values are for the median-valued home. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/05/sola...-the-most.html

Hey, me again. I forgot to include this: Why Home Solar Panels No Longer Pay in Some States
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I wonder how many people would pay extra for a solar home... People do not want to do the math on whether a solar home is worthwhile and they do not want the extra complication.
I know. right?

I'm trying to get some tiny house enthusiasts to run some numbers on competitive designs. It's hard and they're the 'enthusiasts'.

The problem is you can't retrofit, it needs to be new construction. Passive solar space heating, passive solar ventilation, solar water heating, photovoltaic microgrid.... It's all too much for a conventional remodel.
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It isn't Captain Kirk's quote from "Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country," but the first line is close enough.

A coworker once told me that she only smoked with her friends because second-hand smoke was worse than actually smoking. I pointed out that if other people were smoking then you were doing both, and it was worse than each.

"Oh wow."
"You are not changing anything, are you?"

What would be a ballpark figure of all of those upgrades on a $200,000 home?
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What would be a ballpark figure of all of those upgrades on a $200,000 home?
It would cost 0.25 ball parks.

Tear it down and start over. The rooms are the wrong shape.

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