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Old 08-01-2017, 04:51 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Old 08-01-2017, 05:52 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Here's a pretty clear eyed view about the Model 3:

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Old 08-02-2017, 03:28 AM   #114 (permalink)
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So you might even be able to break even buying a higher optioned 3 if you consider the lost tax advantage one might face if buying the lower optioned model.
That's the hope. The tax credit is almost enough to cover autopilot and the future self-driving updates. At the same time, by the time Tesla runs out of the tax credit, they might have enough Model 3 volume to reduce the cost of the car and the different options.

I think people who ordered in store will likely be able to purchase/take delivery of a base Model 3 in the first half of next year as long as Tesla reaches their 200,000 US sale next year.

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Did they expect their $35,000 car would be $58,000? That's quite a jump.
Yup. Actually, most people thought the most expensive 3 would be more than $58k. The difference between base/fully loaded is roughly the same spread Tesla had when the Model S and Model X were launched.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thre...model-3.76154/

The difference between a base/fully loaded 3 as a function of it's starting price is actually less then the difference between a base/fully loaded Model S at the moment.

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Have you leased any of your EVs, or were they all purchases? Do you have a reservation for the Model 3?

I'll probably buy a gen I Leaf for my parents in the next year, and perhaps I'll buy a used Model 3 in 4 years for myself.
We have been leasing our Leaf and e-Golf, and our intent is to replace the Leaf with a Bolt EV, which we are planning on buying. I think the Bolt EV is the best fit for us - we fit comfortably and it is a hatchback. The Model 3 being a sedan is a non-starter; despite all its good points.

Here's a roundup of all the Model 3 articles:

https://www.autoblog.com/2017/07/31/...sions-roundup/
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The tax credit is almost enough to cover autopilot and the future self-driving updates.
But what of people like me, who'd pay extra to have that stuff removed?
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But what of people like me, who'd pay extra to have that stuff removed?
It won't please everybody. They wanted to keep production cost low, so you get just a few options. Also, as explained in the video Neil linked to, it is a system thing; everything is focused on keeping it simple to use, keeping it minimal. Everything on the screen. It is a concept, and all the extras are there with that concept in mind, designed to merge seamlessly.

A bit like Apple does. Tesla compares to iOS like all the other cars compare to Windows. So it takes some getting used to and you are forced to do some things in a certain way, but in the end it is easier and more pleasant to use and it will crash less often
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But what of people like me, who'd pay extra to have that stuff removed?
I imagine you would do the same as anyone else in that situation. You could lump it and either live with it to remove it yourself, or look for another car that doesn't include the things you don't want.

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