03-19-2009, 05:51 PM
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Oh, and I spotted the windshield wiper aero mod.
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03-19-2009, 06:08 PM
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This project is like a blast from the past for me:
That's the last (of half a dozen) Rabbits I owned when I was in school. Same year as Sipster (I think... might be off by one). Same suspension & reinforcement mods as Sipster (minus the coilovers - just antisway & stiffeners). Same Jetta steel wheels as Sipster. I loved that car. Gas engine though.
It was also the first car I started eco-driving.
(Crappy pics captured from crappy video).
NO crash damage! :P (Though it was only about 10 years old when I had it.)
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03-19-2009, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MetroMPG
Dave: you're being too hard on yourselves with the " Necessary for 70 mpg?"
column in the table of suspension upgrades! They don't all have to read "NO".
Just Google "death turn hypermiling" to find out what I mean. Conserve momentum!
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I like how you think!
That column should give you a hint about how we're doing the accounting on the $7,000. We're clearly doing a few things that aren't necessary for the 7s, like coil-overs and LSD, and we don't plan on counting those. Ending up with a car that's still fun to drive is important to those of us losing sleep during the build, though...
-Dave
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03-19-2009, 11:06 PM
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Quote:
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...but figured you would be interested regardless,
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Yeah, especially the "safer sipster" picture :-) You folks are working in the US, right? Didn't anyone tell you we drive on the other side of the road?
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03-20-2009, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MetroMPG
Yep - they just posted it today, as foretold.
Looks like an updated version of Car & Driver magazine's "Crisis Fighter" ecomodding series from the 70's, eg. the Crisis Fighter Pinto ... except with a much bigger budget!
From the TG article:
This will be interesting. Thumbs-up, Top Gear.
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That is so cool, they are coming to my neck of the woods, and what is even cooler is that I know the pwner of CWS personally, I was good friends with his brother.
The owner of CWS did crazy things to cars way back. I bought a 1976 Civic from him which had an Accord engine in it that had the timing advanced, The car was crazy fast but horrible on fuel. One of the coolest cars I saw him build when I was younger was putting an old Cooper Mini on a Samurai frame with big mudder tires. The guy is a genius with cars.
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03-20-2009, 10:31 PM
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A bunch of us Prius owners have been monitoring a marketing firm effort by "greenhuman" to drive a new Jetta TDI and a Prius coast to coast via Maine, Florida and Washington State: Now their methodology is weak and there is no evidence of any engineering data having come out of the 7,000 miles covered. But I just noticed you' all didn't have any postings about this other effort. Just thought I'd pass on the joy. IMHO, the "Top Gear" effort has a lot more behind it than the marketing firm exercise.
Bob Wilson
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03-21-2009, 12:30 AM
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So many Jetta parts! Why not make a Jetta get 70?
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03-21-2009, 03:05 AM
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So many Jetta parts! Why not make a Jetta get 70?
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My co-worker is getting 55 on a Jetta TDi wagon--with no mods or special driving techniques. I would think that 70 would be possible.
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03-21-2009, 01:01 PM
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80-mpg Rabbit
I believe,Holman and Moody,of racing car fame modified a VW Rabbit in the late 1970s or early 80s and were able to achieve 80 mpg.Sorry I don't have any particulars.One mention of note,at high speed ( 80-mph + ),the efficiency of the turbo'd Rabbit can be eclipsed by that of a gasoline car.------------------------------------------------------------------- I think your goals are quite reasonable.Best to you!
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03-21-2009, 01:12 PM
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One thing that limits the VW TDI (regardless of the car) is its acceleration-oriented gear ratio.
3.89:1 ain't gonna ultimately cut it for big MPG. From what I can see VWs are resistant to gearing changes. Limited gear flexibility is one reason I don't much like front wheel drive.
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