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Old 07-05-2016, 08:51 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I fail to understand why this is even a story, if I were driving my 1980's suburban and crash into a blantly large easy to see object while accellerating, would it garner the same response?

On this note I believe all of the newer than 2006 safety features should be banned and cars should disable all electronic devices while driving.

Anything that allows people to be less mindfull on the road doesn't belong in a car and that includes auto pilot.

In my mind the guy deserved to die, he was doing things that should never be done on the road and was being a danger to everyone out there that day.
survival of the fittest I guess,

luckily his stupidity did not kill anyone else as is more commonly the case when people are being dumbarses staring at screens.

To be honest I don't view what he did much differently than getting hammered and driving, no difference.

Hopefully this incident is instead a wakeup call to attack the true cause of most accidents as opposed to trying to cover for morons.

I suppose I am the only one who believes in personal responsibility and that doesn't include a machine.

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Old 07-05-2016, 10:56 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Tesla and Google Take Different Roads to Self-Driving Car

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But Google decided to play down the vigilant-human approach after an experiment in 2013, when the company let some of its employees sit behind the wheel of the self-driving cars on their daily commutes.

Engineers using onboard video cameras to remotely monitor the results were alarmed by what they observed a range of distracted-driving behavior that included falling asleep.
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Old 07-05-2016, 12:20 PM   #33 (permalink)
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So inattentive driving causes fatality... I guess the only thing that's new to this story is the over-confidence built by giving humans a false hope of a car that can drive better than the human can.

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Old 07-05-2016, 01:25 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Only "report" I heard about speeding was from the truck driver who turned in front of the car, so that's suspect. Have you read otherwise?
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...one woman who was driving on the same road said that she was going 85 mph when he quickly drove past her.
From https://cleantechnica.com/2016/07/02...ary-negligent/

That also would explain why the truck was making the turn at that point. If the driver saw the Tesla in the distance and assumed it was travelling at normal speed, he would have thought (correctly) that he had time to clear the road before it got there,
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Does Florida allow radar detectors?

If not, and if he was in fact going that fast, he'd be even more of a fool since he wasn't watching out for speed traps.
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85+ mph on any road that is not a limited access divided highway is insane. I'm sure Tesla's black box knows exactly how fast he was going.
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If not, and if he was in fact going that fast, he'd be even more of a fool since he wasn't watching out for speed traps.
Apparently he didn't care, as it's reported that he'd collected numerous speeding tickets. I suppose if you can buy a Tesla, the fines are just small change.
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Chronic wreckless fool. It's a miracle he didn't take anyone with him.
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Interesting side note. No resulting battery fire. Even though the front of the carwas stuffed in by the pole it finally hit.
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The rumor has it that the Tesla driver was watching a movie on a portable player.
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I also wonder about the amount of time that the driver would have had to react even if he was paying attention. It seems like the truck turned across right in front of him. Which comes down to driver intuition which a computer will never have. As a motorcyclist I have learned to predict the behavior of other motorist actions before they make them based on subtle "body language" cues of their vehicle.
I'm always watching for cars leaning left/right within their lane, a lot of the time its all I get before someone cuts in next to me. I really wish everyone drove with the level of awareness that the average motorcycle does. If you aren't guessing what traffic is doing, then you're forced to react and make split second decisions instead of anticipating and planning your reaction. Race car drivers react almost before things happen because they anticipate and plan before things get sideways. If you get your thinking out of the way beforehand, your reaction times shrink dramatically.

Autopilot really shouldn't be marketed as such. There's too much nuance and intuition to driving that most people don't pick up on, let alone a computer program. I'd expect the trucker signaled a long time before making that move, and even if he hadn't, it takes seconds for a tractor tailer to completely block the roadway like that, which is an eternity if you're watching the road. If you can avoid smashing into braking traffic during rush hour, then an 80ft trailer should be much more predictable.

He either wasn't paying attention, and would've made similar mistakes in another car, or was leaning heavily on autopilot watching a dvd, and let the car make the mistake for him

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