What to buy? V6 OR V8??? (for Silverado Z71)

[Frank Lee]

It is better but when considering the big picture it's kinda pathetic.

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by woodydel

My opinion about the OP getting upset is he just wanted to know what to choose. He did not want to justify the type of vehicle.

Adapting the nut buying the car, is a bigger mod than trying to adapt that nut when driving a hugely inefficient vehicle.

[woodydel]

Originally Posted by euromodder

Adapting the nut buying the car, is a bigger mod than trying to adapt that nut when driving a hugely inefficient vehicle.

Are you trying to make everyone else conform to your way of thinking or are you trying to help? You did not offer a more "efficient" engine suggestion. I did with the advantage of first hand experience. That's how you get things turned around. Your method kicks him out the door. Why don't you say something about my big fat gas guzzling motorhome while you're at it. Maybe you want me to ride a bike with a little trailer and a tent. Why are you even driving a car? Maybe you should get a more local job so you won't need a car. Travel isn't even necessary anymore. We all have TV.

Don't know if you get my point or not. I don't even care if you change your mind about how to influence change. I think you're forgetting what's important. Every little bit of change matters.

[MetroMPG]

woodydel: don't over-react, please. ("Why don't you say something about my big fat gas guzzling motorhome while you're at it.")

I think asking if a driver has really considered their vehicle choice is a legitimate question. Though obviously this can rub some vehicle owners the wrong way (some people are more defensive than others).

Having said that, it's the questioner's responsibility to do it in a way that isn't abrasive or insulting, and doesn't completely ignore the O.P.'s original question.

It's all about keeping things respectful & civil.

But I also think you're right: a small change is better than none.

[endurance]

What I don't get is why he asked the question in the first place. If it's all about the MPG, then buy the vehicle with the best MPG, which I'd suspect given the choice between a V6 and V8, is probably going to be the V6. Otherwise, he's trolling for approval (or a fight), not actually looking for information.

I've been involved in a lot of online forums over time and there's always a balance between chasing off the trolls and playing nice to encourage new users. Frankly, playing too nice ends up making a place where nobody wants to be fast. Conform to the teenagers and soon enough they'll be running the place. There's a reason I don't go to Chuck E. Cheese anymore and it's not because I didn't like the pizza.

[MetroMPG]

We've had lots of cases where the O.P. was obviously trolling - moreso when gas was > $3.50 / US gallon. I recall more than a few "incursions" from truck & traditional performance car forums. (I assume when they're mad at the amount they have to pay for fuel, they decide to take it out on this forum.)

But those ones are a bit more obvious when they happen. Personally, I didn't get that vibe from this guy until his 2nd post.

Though I'll admit I thought it was odd he was looking for full size truck advice after stating his upfront concern was "PURE FUEL ECONOMY".

[tim3058]

Haha, brace yourself then, gas is getting back up there. This weekend it was $3.13 here in good ole taxed-to-death NY, $3.01 if you went to the local Natives station (which I do). Some market people saying it may push $4/gal before Christmas... The OP may be back soon enough asking for advice in a more desperate tone.

[woodydel]

Originally Posted by tim3058

Haha, brace yourself then, gas is getting back up there. This weekend it was $3.13 here in good ole taxed-to-death NY, $3.01 if you went to the local Natives station (which I do). Some market people saying it may push $4/gal before Christmas... The OP may be back soon enough asking for advice in a more desperate tone.

On one 2009 trip to Alaska, we did 12000 miles in three months. We had a celebration, my wife and I, when we pulled into Alaska and the price for gas had dropped down to $3.33 /gal in Tok. I remember, we couldn't get our credit card out fast enough. It was like a year end sales event. Gas sticker shock takes place in Canada. There you get your gas by the liter. So let's say you pull into pokey little Watson Lake in the Yukon and you need gas (real life). First gas station you see pull in and fill er up, that's 75 gallons worth. Back on the road, travel 1 1/2 miles and see the gas 40 cents less. That's per liter. So times 3.8 that's $1.50 per gallon less at the other end of town. Repeat process getting there and coming back 15-16 times.

Low 3's is not too bad. Filling up the 250cc Chinese Reflex clone is pure joy.

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by woodydel

I think you're forgetting what's important

Rewind to post #1 in this thread.
According to the OP, fuel economy was important.

i am looking for PURE FUEL ECONOMY

He's not gonna get anything like decent FE in a truck like that. Ever.

He hasn't got the truck yet, and it doesn't look like he really needs it at all.
It's the obvious moment to make someone reconsider the options.


Apparently, fuel is still far too cheap in the US to make (most) Americans come to their senses regarding their choice of cars.

[MetroMPG]

euromodder, don't forget the likelihood of someone considering your position has much to do with the way you communicate it.