What to buy? V6 OR V8??? (for Silverado Z71) - Page 5 - Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum

euromodder · 11-22-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tim3058

Haha, brace yourself then, gas is getting back up there. This weekend it was $3.13 here in good ole taxed-to-death NY

Regular gas is $7.56 /gallon over here, meaning it's already above the average price for 2008.

Angelus359 · 11-22-2010, 03:31 PM

I paid 3.05$ US per gallon and I get 28mpg. (I drive city).

If gas was 6$ a galllon...

woodydel · 11-22-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by euromodder

Rewind to post #1 in this thread.
According to the OP, fuel economy was important.

He's not gonna get anything like decent FE in a truck like that. Ever.

He hasn't got the truck yet, and it doesn't look like he really needs it at all.
It's the obvious moment to make someone reconsider the options.

Apparently, fuel is still far too cheap in the US to make (most) Americans come to their senses regarding their choice of cars.

The OP's thinking process does not have to be perfect. To change him, he still has to be here.

When I first saw the smart car, from Europe, it was diesel powered and was sold in Canada. I said to my son who spotted it with me in Pennsylvania I would get one. Three years later I gave up. I had put myself on their "list" online. Then Mercedes got involved etc. Next thing you know it's not the 85 MPG diesel powered car we had seen but the gas powered car being sold here. It sucked. It was overpriced and You were better off with a Civic. Supposedly the delay was due to meeting United States criteria. What a crock. Americans will look at what is presented and if it makes sense we will buy it.

I'm really into motorhomes. I'm from the United States.

We don't need higher fuel prices.

Well, since I'm into motorhomes, I look at all kinds of motorhomes.

Here's one, Look for poster EGN and his MAN motorhome 1/2 way down on the page. Fuel prices don't seem to be stopping him very much.

The link:
MAN 6x6 camper - Page 2 - Expedition Portal Forum

Everyone has his idea of what is appropriate. Some people are conservationists. Some are into big and powerful. The poster named EGN uses lots of fuel and he's where you are. If you read up on what EGN posts on that link, (there are a lot of them), you will see even he has limits. He seems to be aware of what a REAL FUEL GUZZLER is. Like using a MAN tank hauler/motorhome conversion uses too much fuel and he advises against it.

The Europeans are not lucky to have high fuel prices. Higher fuel prices here in the United States precipitated and predates the market crash. So we get crippled by inflationary fuel prices with no connection to supply and demand and the Europeans got creamed.

We can repeat it all over again thanks to stinking speculators (gov't will sit on its hands again) but you guys will be very unhappy.

While you are all worried about how much fuel we should be saving, countries like CHINA are not going to stop till they are king of the fuel usage hill.

For me, if I can get the motorhome up from 10 MPG to 12.5, I'll be very happy with the achievement. Heck, if I compare myself to my motorhoming buddies who have their fuel efficient diesel behemoths getting 6.5 to 7.5 MPG on diesel I wouldn't do anything. I can't get them to slow down no matter what I show them for evidence that they will get better MPG. They've got the money and they are going to spend it (or the heirs will). Price of fuel makes no difference to a lot of people who like to drive big things.

woodydel · 11-22-2010, 04:33 PM

I'm still talking about getting others to listen like the OP.

People are stubborn. On another site related to the motorhomes I posted this link:

http://www.catrvclub.org/Understanding_Perf.pdf

Now, I'm pretty sure Caterpillar knows what they are doing. Yet the people there were more apt to say it did not apply to them. They would say silly things like "Well I always drive 75 mph and I just don't believe it". That's a made up quote but you get the idea. It's an uphill battle to get people to listen and LEARN.

After too much of this type crazy talk I have to just "walk" away. After awhile I'll return to keep plugging away at them hoping they'll listen.

P.S. Notice the weights of the vehicles we're talking about. An equivilent sized gas motorhome will be outweighed by 10000 lbs minimum and sometimes as much as 38000 lbs. (do you REALLY need granite floor tile?)

euromodder · 11-22-2010, 04:46 PM

I've been reading the same sort of "it doesn't apply to me"-excuses in this entire thread.

If that offends anyone, too bad.

It's too bad too, that the gas-guzzler disease is spreading.
If over a billion Chinese or Indians catch that bug, the future looks rather bleak for all of us.

Angelus359 · 11-25-2010, 11:31 AM

I don't like big engines. They get in the way of working in the engine compartment.

Clev · 11-25-2010, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euromodder

Rewind to post #1 in this thread.
According to the OP, fuel economy was important.

He's not gonna get anything like decent FE in a truck like that. Ever.

He hasn't got the truck yet, and it doesn't look like he really needs it at all.
It's the obvious moment to make someone reconsider the options.

Apparently, fuel is still far too cheap in the US to make (most) Americans come to their senses regarding their choice of cars.

I'm with you on this one, Euro.

The fact that he completely blew up when we dare suggest even a smaller pickup tells me he was trolling. He doesn't need to tow, but he MUST have a full-size truck? If you really need to haul stuff (like trash to the dump every weekend), and you don't want to tow it on a trailer, there's a perfectly good Ranger that's rated 27 mpg freeway.

NHRABill · 11-26-2010, 03:36 PM

When deciding between 2 options that the OP presented on the same truck with 2 engines very similar mpg. EXCEPT: the v8 can be modded to be more efficiently by using a programmer that would get him better MPG than the smaller 6cyl. he was called out on his way of thinking.

Yes a smaller car is better choice for everyone so is not driving at all. I had a discussion with a family member yesterday trying to tell me to sell my truck and get a 4cyl. instead. I told him to sell his house and stop commuting 60 miles each way to work and move closer to his job. I drive less then 10 miles a day who is more fuel concious me or him?

The original poster might be in the same situation it may be a first truck or a thousand other reasons he wants the truck. Its better to keep someone interested in economy then dump on them. Going into the forum he knew the truck was a bad choice for efficiencey, if not then i got nothing...