Ford to stop selling cars in North America

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by hayden55

the Fusion and Taurus suck and the interiors suck as well.

Balderdash. Every other post I make on here is how phenomenal the Fusion is. How does it suck? It does everything pretty darn well, and has the good looks of an Aston Martin. The interior could look nicer, but then the car could also cost more.

Originally Posted by Daschicken

Mazda CX-5 CROSSUNDER with the 2.5 auto was rated for 32 highway. I have taken the CX-5 on my highway commute, and I could only get 43 MPG...

I'm really surprised they are killing the fusion though, I would have thought that one would stick around for sure.

How the heck are you getting 43 MPG? I've got a 2017 and as you can see, I'm averaging about 29 MPG. I don't drive over 65 MPH, and employ all of the normal best practices for conserving fuel while not disrupting traffic flows.

I'm with you on the Fusion. Best vehicle they have by a mile.

[Daschicken]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

How the heck are you getting 43 MPG? I've got a 2017 and as you can see, I'm averaging about 29 MPG. I don't drive over 65 MPH, and employ all of the normal best practices for conserving fuel while not disrupting traffic flows.

I'm with you on the Fusion. Best vehicle they have by a mile.

That was just for one trip, just making sure you know that. That was tires aired up to 40 PSI(their usual), no A/C use at all, coasting in neutral, dwl, not exceeding 55 mph except for coasting, ect. Of course it does the stupid torque converter thing where you have to accelerate after shifting back into drive from neutral to get it to lock up so you can have engine braking/DFCO, which complicates things, but I made it work.

[freebeard]

That Fiesta Panel Van is pretty sweet.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Frank Lee

But they DIDN'T neglect small cars! They spent billions developing them for Duhmericans that didn't want them.

They develop small cars with a focus (no pun intended) on Europe and Asia, and the leftovers are dumped in Latin America and Africa...

[darcane]

The key detail here:

The New York Times said yesterday that Ford loses money on the Focus, Fiesta, and Fusion...

Why sell something that you lose money on?

The next question, why do they lose money on it? Well, more and more safety requirements keep getting mandated while ever more stringent fuel economy standards are adopted. I remember reading an SAE report a few years back that the CAFE requirements could be met, but there were significant costs for each incremental increase. The question posed back then was if consumers would accept the cost increase.

This decision by Ford clearly indicates the answer. No.

I'm guessing the opinions on this forum are largely meaningless. Why? How many of us actually buy new cars? I honestly don't see how anyone can afford them. Car loans now commonly exceed eight years! I'm not surprised here at all.

[Xist]

Do you guys agree with Frank that Ford spent billions developing small cars when large vehicles have a larger profit margin?

[RedDevil]

Frankly, I'd be worried more if Tesla would stop selling sedans.
In the long run ICE cars will be phased out. It is a sign of the times.
The dinosaurs will all die out even if they are getting bigger now.
Who cares which kind of dinosaur is first to go?

[ksa8907]

You know what? Maybe that opens the door for Chevy to keep producing the Volt. Or at least the Malibu hybrid.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

I can't believe Ford loses anything in the Fiesta and the Focus on a global basis, even though the full-scale production in the entire American continent might not justify at all. Well, there is some friendly fire from the Ka/Figo against the Fiesta in Latin America, plus the market share of sedans and hatchbacks on the Focus' size class is also diminishing in countries such as Brazil. When it comes to the Fusion/Mondeo, since its production for our continent is concentrated in Mexico, I must confess it surprises me that Ford claims to have losses on it.

[California98Civic]

I wonder how steel and aluminum tariffs and the threat of them may have changed the long range calculus. If they have to switch to domestic suppliers at higher prices, the cars they already contend are losses and those not very profitable might get the ax.