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Old 08-07-2008, 12:21 AM   #131 (permalink)
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perhaps...

but you flamed some respectable folks that you might disagree with but might learn from
(come on you can admitt it - it could happen )

Meanwhile.... the instigator got away... to here...

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tion-4342.html

not hard to pick out... large preachy posts... starting say about 10:12pm today

now I have armed you with information, please do not blow away anyone with it
in fact the tire pressure thread is a good read even without comment


would have PMed but that does not seem possible - I apologize for taking up space here

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Old 08-07-2008, 06:46 AM   #132 (permalink)
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BDC would get eaten alive over at SomethingAwful or Devious Tyrant in my opinion. I used to hang with a lot of forum people like this and learned to not get involved. I know what I am capable of and respect myself too much to stoop to that level of internet arguing anymore.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:26 PM   #133 (permalink)
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sorry I'm new at this
should have known better

Ahem... well... um...
Why doesn't the U.S. get good FE cars?
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:03 AM   #134 (permalink)
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Meanwhile.... the instigator got away... to here...
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NAADE!! :O Dive on it and save the Aptera!!!
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:10 AM   #135 (permalink)
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I'll throw my self on that!

The Aptera is the first EV I have been impressed enough with to consider buying
it looks pragmatic and really "doable" without penalties

but is it going to make it to the real world?
Electric carmaker Aptera raises $24 million round | Green Tech - CNET News.com
looks like they are living on hand outs - not a good sign
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Old 08-08-2008, 02:43 PM   #136 (permalink)
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Handouts? That looks like pretty savvy venture capital money to me.
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:21 PM   #137 (permalink)
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I hope you are right

I was referring to the "Google's philanthropic arm" giving cash
I'm sure Google has a venture capital or business development arm too
but this sounds more like a donation
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:30 PM   #138 (permalink)
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And that's the problem! Only a ton of Americans (2% of the US population) ever bought fuel-efficient cars that were manufactured.And responding as any joint-stock corporation would,they placed their emphassis on manufacturing other things which would sell.
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I'll throw my self on that!

The Aptera is the first EV I have been impressed enough with to consider buying
it looks pragmatic and really "doable" without penalties

but is it going to make it to the real world?
Electric carmaker Aptera raises $24 million round | Green Tech - CNET News.com
looks like they are living on hand outs - not a good sign
I was having the same conversation with a friend the other day. For a sub-$30K price tag, it will plausibly deliver breakthrough MPG. All the other EV designs seem to be compromises that are not "car-ish" enough or don't deliver breakthrough MPG. I think (with fingers crossed) that the Aptera bypasses "trying to be a car" and might deliver on the MPG front.

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At the current rate any changes to America's energy crisis is going to take decades to occur and meanwhile gas will be over $10 barrel by then which is why we need true leadership and a vision to truthfully become independent of foreign Arab oil. Not BS like this .18 cent gas tax holiday for a couple of months, what a crock.

What this country really needs is a leader who will not back down from removing the billions in oil subsidies and transferring them to electric car manufacturer's like the makers of the Aptera as well as Wind and Solar power plant producers. At the same time cut all the regulations surrounding new nuclear plants, refineries, and allow more drilling to boot. We need it all, but the only real solution is to move away from fossil fuel based consumption and towards renewable consumption. One strong move like that from the new president and I guarantee you GAS will immediately fall to under $3/gallon because the speculators will know America is finally serious on permanent renewable energy.

There is a very good reason why one of the candidates refuses to accept lobbyist money and the other's campaign is majority funded by lobbyists (and received another 2 million from the oil lobby just last week). Don't listen to their words, just follow the money to know who's pocket they are really in.

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